Today, 08:11 PM Hi all on the look out for a decent size conical grinder , koney robur whu Jake

I'm tempted to offer you my Ceado E92, very little used, perhaps 50Kg through in total (perhaps not even that)…Cost me quite a lot though, so not a cheap grinder.

Ohhh sounds nice but also expensive 🤣 budget is around £500 max

> @"Cuprajake"#p7580 Ohhh sounds nice but also expensive 🤣 budget is around £500 max It is, and £500 would come nowhere near….A shame because it's sat there doing nothing for almost 4 years now

@"Cuprajake"#p7568 Are you selling your Major then ? 😬

@"DavecUK"#p7582 What’s your price Dave? ![Giphy - Youtube Money GIF by HannahWitton](https://media3.giphy.com/media/FTmVNgU4Z6Ax6jgCsy/giphy.gif?cid=bb77869fo2atbq3qke874tjasr3rbv2masfkh0qd8mhcx6f2&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

@"LMSC"#p7607 no i want to try conical next to the major, just for shits n giggles haha

@"Cuprajake"#p7616 Got to be at least the 83 mm burr set to give it a fair shot, is it not ?

> @"LMSC"#p7608 What’s your price Dave? You don't want to know….

@"DavecUK"#p7628 The new including VAT and import duty would cost about £2K, I would imagine.

a couple of E92s were sold for no more than £550 in the past 1.5 years, on CFUK. These days, with the Niche, nothing ex-commercial second hand is selling for anything more than that, however good it might be.

Conical grinder

LMSC

MediumRoastSteam

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dfk41

When you compare the workflow differences between the E92 and the Niche, you will come to the conclusion that for the difference in taste, it is not worth it. If you do not single dose the E92, then the retention is astonishing. If you do single dose, you need to feed the beans into the grinder by hand 4 or 5 at a time, continually stopping and using the puffer. To grind 18 gm beans takes a long time. Then you have to press the puffer a couple of thousand times…..I think the fact that our forum super taster uses a Niche and has an E92 tells you all.
Nothing wrong with wanting one to try but if you want one to try you are going to have to sell it again when you have finished……

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam Looks like here were 3 or 4 of those for sale on CFUK in recent years:

2 sold for £500, another one for £895 and another one for £950.

I can imagine, mine is owned by me from new….I started testing grinders shortly after I got it…so I didn’t put very much through…I think 50kg would be a top estimate. I wouldn’t sell it for less than £950, especially as you can’t get them any more and nothing that runs so slow. I have all the bits it came with, but I did modify it for single dosing, which really is just removal of a steel flap. You can’t run it with a hopper, the retention is enormous. I still have the original hopper which is massive as well…never used <lol>. In fact I am sure I did a review on it? I did, it’s for the E37s and E92, the E92 part starts about half way through. I actually purchased the E92 after I completed that review… I used it for about 18 months and they started testing other grinders and it has sat in my front room unused since then.

In the end with proper techniques, dose consistency was under 0.5g, so it retained very little when used right. I never bothered disconnecting the fan, I just used to turn it off when I was finished…which also helps the display last a long time.

https://fdocuments.in/document/ceado-e37s-and-a-closer-look-espresso-a-ceado-grinder-review-v15doc-23.html

Cuprajake

Clever.

I like my mazzer, i would like to just try conical

I suppose a niche would sell on regardless, just the last one i had used to get beans stuck under the disc thingy.

Its just an idea atm

HVL87

Cuprajake I suppose a niche would sell on regardless, just the last one i had used to get beans stuck under the disc thingy.

I was going to suggest you buy a Niche as you can resell easily. Honestly don’t worry about beans getting stuck under the NFC disk. It may have happened to me once if that?

SteveBRS

HVL87 It happens more often with Maragogype type elephant beans

Nightrider_1uk

HVL87 Honestly don’t worry about beans getting stuck under the NFC disk. It may have happened to me once if that?

I’ve had it about 3 times, but they were larger beans, easily sorted

CafeNoir

My experience is somewhat limited on grinders, but never had a stuck bean with my Niche in almost 18 months, if that helps

MediumRoastSteam

I never had this issue either. I had to buy and fit the disk myself as it wasn’t a thing when I bought the grinder, back in 2018.

Lake_M

With the addition of bellows the E92 is only slightly longer in work-flow than the Niche. I just drop in 20g of beans start the grinder, wait til the beans have ground through (about 4 seconds!), a few puffs of the bellows, a quick sweep up the spout and that’s it. Timer set to 15s which is enough to grind and puff. Easy! (Oh, and I use a Niche grind cup too..) I may upload a vid for poops and giggles.

Cuprajake

Lake_M

You surely dont need two conical grinders 🤣

dfk41

@Lake_M 4 seconds or 20 gms! It is the slowest spinning commercial conical in the world, or at least the one or two I had were!

Lake_M

dfk41 OK maybe 5. Not much more, it crunches through them pretty quickly! Looks like I’m definitely going to have to do a vid now.

dfk41

Lake_M I am renowned for having a crap memory, but when L had my last one, am sure the routine as described my @DavecUK of feeding beans in small quantities, then bellowing (as much in frustration as to clean the chute0, add in genuflecting and the minute bassoon reached. Admittedly, this routine did all but cure the retention, but…….

Lake_M

dfk41 When I used the camera lens hood method it was pretty bad to be honest, but it worked. The addition of the bellows changed everything.

Cuprajake

Which of the older grinders were not to bad for retention

Lake_M

Compak CPF10 on Ebay. 83mm (I assume conical because they run at 350rpm)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/384723634953?hash=item599350cb09:g:8kYAAOSw8G1h3Zk7

Cuprajake

Yeah ive been watching that but its on and off like a yoyo. Has sold more than once to re appear

DavecUK

Cuprajake I think it will have a fair bit of retention as well….unless mods can make it close to retentionless?

Cuprajake

Not sure, but big ass hopper too 🤣

Lake_M

Yeah I was looking at the hopper, not sure how you would set up a bellows on that. The neck is really wide.

It’s gone again.

Cuprajake

I sent them a message of how much they wanted, and they said they wont accept offers then killed the auction…

DavecUK

Cuprajake That’s a bitt odd?

CafeNoir

Cuprajake What the hell? That is very unusual behaviour to put it politely. There will be others mate, found my big flat ex-cafe on GumTree, for what has to have been book value. Be patient and hang in there is my advice.

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