https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tn84Gp_xcQ Any thoughts? How would you use the new function? @"DavecUK"#1 is there any way you could test the new V3 of the Bianca?

Thats a very good feature to add, wonder if rrp will be effected.

@"RobertRo101"#p9667 I've been using the V3 for almost a year now…low flow works well. Especially good if you don't want to move the paddle..It was one of my favourite new things on Bianca. For the upgrade you would need a new LCC, some wiring and the additional solenoid with a slight plumbing change.

@"DavecUK"#p9673 I was certain that you would have had this verision already:) can you share any info if you are going to update the Bianca review on your website or post a video about some testing with the new future? Are there any more updates we can expect?

> @"RobertRo101"#p9674 update the Bianca review on your website or post a video about some testing with the new future? Are there any more updates we can expect? The Bianca Review is a version 1, so quite old now. I may well update it…essentially the machine is unchanged except for the addition of the new features. I may have a few extra features the production version doesn't have, and my solenoid is slightly different (they are sending me a replacement, if I get any problems with mine)… I was originally sent it to try it and see if there were any problems…which there were not…it wall worked very well. I don't think I have a manual, but I will download the production manual as my version a year ago has something else I won't mention, until I find out if it was in the production version. I suspect my software might not be exactly the same version, but again until you guys by one and if the software version is on the back of the LCC I won't know…plus mine could still have been a reflashed LCC. I have to be very careful when commenting on pre production stuff so early in the chain. Really like the version 3 though, as compared to the version 1, lots of features were new….and I do need to update my version 1 to a version 2.

This is why, despite my recent challenges, I really love the Bianca (and Lelit). I have been toying with updating to LCC 2. I may hang fire and update to LCC v3 though, with my new found boldness for tinkering with the machine 😉

The Low flow used in conjunction with PI seems to be a good combination. Dave, have you been using just the low flow or do you always use the PI with it ?

Really great feature. It basically mirrors the profile I use 99% of the time so it’s handy to be able to automate it. It’s also really awesome to see Lelit iterating on what is already a fantastic machine. It’s impressive how quickly the group head pressure changes when the low flow kicks in.

this is awesome. i'll get an upgrade kit when its available.

Its a good option, not sure id rip my machine apart for it, but its a good out the box incentive to buy the v3 over a competitor

there will hopefully be some other upgrades that the new LCC bring that are worthwhile.

Lelit Bianca V3

EddieT

BigTTony yes it worked. There is also a video online somewhere let me find it

BigTTony

EddieT thanks Eddie, very much appreciated

EddieT

BigTTony see if this helps

rivergo1d

Does anyone know whether the Bianca takes an 8mm or 8.5mm thick gasket? I’m seeing conflicting reports on the web and am just getting a spare in for my Bianca V3 as part of another order.

prezes

I’m quite sure it’s same as the MaraX so 8.5mm

EddieT

I just bought the red 8mm for mine as a friend has a Bianca and that’s what he used. Doesn’t mean he’s right! I’ll see if I can check if it fits

EddieT

Doesn’t seem to fit properly so must be 8.5 needed.

Gav86

8.5mm is the correct one (blue)

rivergo1d

Interestingly, my Kpc is pre-set at Dave’s recommended value of 0.4, so it looks like he’s been listened to.

Regarding the timings in the video, is this what other people are tending to use?

Pre infusion time on 5 secs
Pre infusion time off for 10 secs until 15 secs
Low flow off at 25 secs

For the first couple of weeks so far, I’ve been using (without much thought) the following:

Pre infusion time on 4 secs
Pre infusion time off for 4 secs until 8 secs (seems a bit short)
Low flow off at 16 secs

DavecUK

rivergo1d When I recommission Bianca, I will look at my setup for the low flow times etc…

EddieT

rivergo1d I’ve been enjoying playing with the paddle so far. The approach I like best at the minute is to grind fine - maybe 3-5 notches on my Niche finer than dialled in at 9 bar, hold at 2 bar until first drips appear, slowly ramp to 9 bar, then ramp down to 6 for the last third of the shot. Let me know what you settle on for the preinfusion and low flow settings

Eddie.

rivergo1d

EddieT

Thanks, that makes sense, I just watched the shot types video today and give it really interesting and it inspired me to experiment more with the paddle, like you are, before settling down into random automated settings

ianIdn

bianca v3 is really interesting. is both boiler heating up at same time ? brew boiler first and after it reach desire temp, and then the steam boiler starts heating up ? thank you

EddieT

ianIdn

Yes that’s right, brew boiler warms up pretty quickly eg 3-4 mins but the group takes a little longer to warm. Fully up and running in 15-20 mins I’d say.

ianIdn

EddieT oh, wow. I think it not heating up at the same time. I should learn more about double boiler works. in reddit says it only one heats at a time. thankyou

DavecUK

They heat up the brew boiler first partly for speed and partly because you won’t be doing anything with the steam boiler until the group is warm. It helps with boiler priorities extending time as well.

Cuprajake

Was there something about the USA machines switching boilers due to ampage? Or did I dream that

rivergo1d

Another question on group gaskets, is it better to go for silicone or rubber?

DavecUK

rivergo1d I have 20 or so rubber/Viton ones in stock, so I use those. I hear some people like silicone though.

Lemondixon

DavecUK Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the issue I’ve read so much about on Home-Barista.com (and to lesser extent on Coffeeforums.Co.uk) about the Bianca’s service boiler either overfilling or over-pressurising and whether:

(a) was it ever really a problem for a significant number of owners (given the large numbers of V1 and V2 units sold),

(b) was this down to the mysterious “film” forming on the sensors, a lack of adequately mineralised water, faulty sensors or bad wiring connections, or something else and

I’ve read all your detailed reviews about the Bianca and many others and am itching to buy one but then, after hearing from one vendor that they have more problems with them than say ECM or Profitek and I heard of these issues, it spooked me and so I wanted a more balanced and informed perspective before I spent that sort of money on one 🤞

Appreciate any thoughts you may have.

Steve

DavecUK

Lemondixon I’m not aware of any Bianca specific issues and they have sold a huge number of them?

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