Adrianmsmith Thanks Adrian, I’ve come across both of those when trawling the internet and checking stuff out …the decent looks a very capable machine ..the Eva Leva however is a bit of an unknown, no doubt capable too. It’s a bit of a minefield to be honest, so many variables ..so I’m thinking dive in and get busy , find my coffee mojo then dive further into the rabbit hole. Any thoughts on a grinder pairing for espresso from a Bianca?? Niche? Or T64 maybe?