Flat Burr Grinder Recommendations

Beverast

Love my Niche but looking at getting a flat burr grinder to complement it. Besides the Lagom P64 can anybody recommend another flat burr grinder in that price range or less? To be uesed for single dosing.

Otaibimn

Currently have a df64 but stock is okish not worth it over a niche.

Once modded though (especially the declumber mod) and aligned properly it becomes a very good sidegrade from the niche to try flats. It has its shortcomings but very liveable I would say.

Otherwise the only other good option is the kopiconcepts deva grinder.

I left out the new eureka grinder cause reviews and overall construction leaves much to be desired.

King of the hill at the moment is the lagom p64 since it has perfect alignment.

DavecUK

Otaibimn King of the hill at the moment is the lagom p64 since it has perfect alignment.

How is this evidenced?

Otaibimn

DavecUK Df64 fully aligned (Dial Gauge) with SSP HU and p64 stock SSP HU.

The df64 cannot grind fine enough to create enough puck resistance and most you get decent turbo shots.

Carrier concentricty and general alignment is seriously needed at that level.

Stock burrs are extremely decent and will be fine for most consumers but SSP hu 64mm is my main focus. The flavor profile is basically the perfect balance between conicals and flats.

The current avaliable grinder with perfect alignment out of the box is the p64.

The kopi deva has a nice malleable piece of copper that deforms during alignment so hoping it will solve this dilemma.

hthec

Otaibimn a reseller in my country offers DF64 with alignment service at a small fee. Would you consider that a decent upgrade from my 50mm mignon silenzio? Or would I be better off upgrading my eureka stock burrs…

BBritton

Otaibimn I’m not sure why you say the DF64 will not grind fine enough. I aligned mine with only two thickness of tin foil on stock TIN burrs. I am able to stall out my Evo Leva easily. But when grinding fine such as below 10 clicks above touch point I need to feed beans slowly so not to clog it an get consistent grind.

I will install the SSP HU shortly as I also think they are worth a try.

Newdent

Otaibimn I’ve heard the kopi Deva can’t grind for espresso with SSP MP burrs as the motor isn’t up to the job. Quite bad when it gives instructions on how to fit the SSP burrs, you’d think they’d have tested them out!

Cuprajake

kopi deva looks nice tbf, ive seen a few vids on it, be nice to see how it grinds

if you have the space there is a bargin of a mazzer major on ebay £400 5 months old,

theres alot of 83mm flats for sale atm

Beverast

Cuprajake I have put in an offer for the mazzer. For that sort of price seems like a good option to try out a flat burr. Space is not really an issue.

Otaibimn

Cuprajake

Thats one good steal tbh.

Beverast Don’t forget to purge 3-4g if you leave it alone for more than an hour. Mazzers flats are pretty good and an 83mm? Start saving for a P100 if you want to upgrade from that.

Cuprajake Mazzer Robur is a very nice option if you don’t mind the hopper.

Mazzer is the industry standard for conicals and the robur has the 71mm ones which are pretty good.

Cuprajake

Its a cracking price

Its been unsold the last 2 or 3 times, it finished yesterday at 400 no bids.

Good luck

Beverast

Cuprajake Seller counter offered and I accepted. So I have Major Mazzer on it’s way hopefully soon - I am drinking a lot of lighter roasts at the moment so thought a flat burr may complement the Niche. Looking forward to getting it 🙂 Thanks for the ebay advice Cuprajake.

CafeNoir

Beverast Very smart suggestion from Cuprajake, sometimes there are genuine bargains to be found by thinking outside the box. Was in similar position, very happy with my Niche but really wanted to try a big flat - without having a P64 style budget.

There are a lot of ex-cafe big flats (and big conicals if you feel the lack, lol) at what seem like very silly prices compared to domestic new machines. Picked up an 83mm flat in vgc for a third of the price of an unmodified DF64. The grind quality is very, very good. Short grind path too…nothings perfect - its pretty huge - but another forty dollars for mod bits and a bit of sweat equity and I’ll have a pretty decent single dose machine.

My biggest problem now is fitting everything on my coffee trolley - next project, lol!!!

Cuprajake

Brill. I was tempted as an update to mine as its a very good machine.

Beverast

Cuprajake I thought, for its price, it would be a wise move to get it to “test the water” so to speak. To spend £1500 on a Lagom P64 and not enjoy a flat burr “profile” would be gutwrenching. Hope I did not cut you off from making an offer there mate.

Cuprajake

Nah not at all, im still looking for a conical to test the other way

Cuprajake

the robur is too big imo for a home set up,

fwiw my doserless major have very little retention the way i have it set up.

heres a crappy one handed vid

CafeNoir

Cuprajake Nice mate. Love the positioning of the brush, heaps better than my old milk steaming jug.

Re your quest for a conical, might I suggest a peek at the Fiorenzato F71? Its big but I don’t believe its any bigger than your Major, especially without the industrial-sized hopper. Impressed with the build quality on my F6D and how good it looks and works at 11 years old.

Ernie1

Cuprajake

Every time I see a Mazzer in action I wish I still had mine!

I forgot how quick the Major is… me over here waiting 25 seconds for a dose 😂

Beverast

Cuprajake Just wondering where you got the bits and pieces to make the major doserless? Is it an easy installation? Also, did you get the ssp burrs from here: http://www.espressotool.com/

Cuprajake

also now give it a second quick blast to clear any last dregs, you could fit a bellows on top, but im not into that look really

Cuprajake

@CafeNoir i did look at that brand but only found flats, i shall extend my search

Cuprajake

even quicker with the ssp burrs, makes a massive difference