Decided to start a little thread, documenting my journey and the vertical learning curve i seam to have been on. Like most, i got furloughed when covid kicked off and got bored so decided to get more into coffee. One thing after another with lots of reading on various forums, YouTube tutorials and what not,i bought a gaggia classic. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/ATQnfMS.jpeg] Along with that i decided to get a 1zpresso for my grinding as i have a wilfa svart for all my pour overs etc. Well after wasting a good 500g of beans on the gaggia, i decided it wasn't for me, and promptly sold it. Decided on the sage duo temp pro which i was initially going to buy in the first place,quick look and £249 later john lewis delivered my shiney new machine [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/TWUem7I.jpeg] Now as much as i loved the 1zpresso, my shoulder didin't so, that got sold in favour of an eureka mignon from [@Black Cat Coffee](https://www.coffeeforums.co.uk/members/16888/) Next up the upgraditus got a hold of me as i wanted a fancy looking machine, and i got a bit of a dark horse off ebay A la macatec elba one, e61 grouphead. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/Pg6PmPa.jpeg] I had long lusted over a dual boiler, mainly the lelit Elizabeth, with its pre infusion, quick heat up times it really is a fantastic machine, but id also noted the acs minima, another machine along the more traditional looks, and the looks along with the bigger boilers swayed it for me. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/uxgb5uM.jpeg] So in the never ending revolving door of grinders with me, after having a eureak zenith 65, a niche and another mignon i saw a lightly used 2019 mazzer major on ebay, i added a Daniel wong doserless kit at the time, since gone to a funnel, even added ssp redspeed burrs [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/4P2ynGd.jpeg] I was going to used bottled water, either ashbeck or longhill, but then i spoke to a few in the know and did a bit of digging and settled on using ro water, remineralised with potassium bicarbonate, this will never scale the machine and makes for a tastey espresso to. After only having the minima for a short while a lever machine caught my eye, a 2014 londinium l1 - that was it i was in love, i sold the minima to fund the l1 and that was me set, the londinium moved home with me. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/NF46adN.jpeg] i had a stunning set of handles turned by nick, they really sent the machine to another level, and i was happy in my own little coffee world, id been toying with med/lighter stuff but always found then too bright, to acidic to my taste, then one day the pressure relief valve blew on the l1, scared me to death, and that set about a refurb of the machine, but id lost all confidence, and decided now we had a bit of equity, that i would buy my first propper new machine, i lusted over the top spec londiniums but at £3500 ish they were just too much. the next machine came from bella barista, a crem one profiler, very capable machine, but arrived faulty, so had to go back, i have an amazing wife who said just get the machine you want, so i did, an lr24 stunner it was too, but sadly again came with issues and i returned the machine, :( after a little search i settled upon the lelit bianca- id always fancied a vesuvius profilong machine, but they too were expensive, so the lelit was the machine of choice, (2months later the ves dropped in price!!) [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/xOGfGUS.jpeg] and there a sat, happy as a pig in mud, the lelit a fabulos machine, quiet rotary pump, flow control, great heat stability, tbh it was almost boring as it just did its job, i still longed for another lever machine, once there in your blood they stick, they just look amazing. and what should pop up but an acs leva…a machine id been quite skeptical about, any lever seems to be quite polarising, just seems to be that way. id heard rumors read stuff saying how the machine was a miss match of parts, no good etc. but they still looked amazing, id followed the machine for a while and at the price it came up, prompted by a life even i thought stuff it! we're here once, get it! and that leads me to now. [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/ErMqxfw.jpeg] its been an up and down journey, ive jumped on fads bought stuff that i totally didnt need, learnt less is definately more, when it comes to coffee, ive noticed that each step ive taken up the ladder, ive inproved my coffee, each machine has been better than the last, starting would i imagined id of spent so much for a coffee - hell no, am i glad i did - yes jake

@"Cuprajake"#p12617 That’s quite a quite a journey Jake! It’s amazing how much you persevered. A classic example for some one to learn and understand what it takes to keep the passion for coffee alive. The best part is your wife firmly supporting so that you get what you desire. Enjoy making coffee with Evo. She offers plenty of possibilities to keep you busy. Hope she stays with you for ever!

Unlike Jake, we mostly stayed pour overs - mainly the Indian filter for a good part of our life with occasional £100-£150 machines. When the last machine died on us in late 2020, we kept moving the goal post from Gaggia to Minima to Evo. The 150 quids to £2500 is indeed a massive upgrade. Sure, she is our end game machine.

Jake’s corner was great reading during the pandemic

Fabulous post @"Cuprajake"#144 most interesting. It's terrific to have that pictorial guide to your journey. Thanks for taking the time to share.

@"Cuprajake"#p12617 Great post, shows the journey for many of us. Some go there in one big jump, others take the longer road, which is probably more fun..

id of saved a small fortune going big first, but i dont think id of learnt or appreciated the subtle changes. ive had some fabulous products half not pictured haha

So with a great machine comes great responsibility 🤣 i mean gadgets and we all love new stuff True to form ive ordered a funnel, doesn't fit, ive ordered a ims basket, and a normcore 58.5mm push tamper, with a plan to machine it down to fit the basket, for a mrs safe tamp🤣 Few internal pic [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/8Yb02jB.jpeg] Then an arty one [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/E2J62vo.jpeg]

Great journey to finally end up where you are today. Best way to learn what you do a don’t like regarding machines and your coffee.

Really enjoyed reading about the journey! That’s quite a few machines! Some very nice looking machines too! I love the turned handles on the first lever machine.

nick didnt, they were a very hard thing to make, had to design and make special mandrels due to the way the londinium handles are made,

My Coffee Journey

Cuprajake

Yeah I found it, my only worry is forgetting to turn it off 😂

Out of the freezer, and ready for tomorrow brew.

Amberale

DavecUK

Thanks Dave.
I just need to find some patience until the details are worked out.
For now a plastic handle does the job.

Loonster

That drip tray makes me want to get a custom grate made for my Vostok.

Cuprajake

Work flow of the decent

DavecUK

Cuprajake The camera is pointed at so much black it’s heavily overexposed the shot…guess next time you will have to fix the exposure on a lighter surface before videoing.. Is the idea to try and get more grind uniformity with the repeated small portions of beans into the grinder? Have you found it makes much difference?

Chriss29

Cuprajake I didn’t realise the steam was that instant and there’s no need to purge the wand before use?

Adrianmsmith

@Cuprajake

I can’t help but think I got the much easier on the eye side of the setup this month.

Happy now I’m plumbed in and not filling and emptying anymore!!

Cuprajake

@Adrianmsmith make a thread like mine to document your machines and journey 😁

Cuprajake

i had my iso set to high on the recording, where i had the camera i was looking at the screen from a side angle,

DavecUK Is the idea to try and get more grind uniformity with the repeated small portions of beans into the grinder

no i was purely taking the mick 😅

DavecUK

Cuprajake no i was purely taking the mick 😅

Out of who, or what?

Adrianmsmith

DavecUK

I’d guess you need to be In certain Facebook groups to get it…… maybe. At least he had a cup to catch the ground coffee ☕

At least he didn’t count the number of beans in each batch!!

Cuprajake

Chriss29 no boiler so no, and it does an auto vent to when finished.

@DavecUK the latest craze is to buy the weber tumbler(sold out ) and shake shake shake

this gives advantages in the cup, i dont have one, so i was making a joke at all the things that are coming out :)

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Chriss29

Cuprajake That’s handy. Is the steamed milk at the end as good as what you got with other machines, albeit it takes longer?

Cuprajake

yeah, better than some ad its dryer

MediumRoastSteam

Cuprajake yeah, better than some ad its dryer

I think I remember people saying that the steam power on the Decent wasn’t great - this was maybe 2 years ago. Maybe they have improved things?

Igm45

MediumRoastSteam

Tbh it’s not great that said it’s dry, produces good milk consistency and the slightly leas power gives you more time to get the milk consistency right.

JammyDodger

MediumRoastSteam I think I remember people saying that the steam power on the Decent wasn’t great

On the American 110v machines the steam is demonstrably slower than a machine with a boiler. You can set both the temperature and flow rate of the steam with the DE1 so you can have either very dry, low-flow steam to add minimal water to your drink, or a fast high-flow steam. On max flow and temp on my 220v DE1, it blows the milk out of the pitcher, so I have dialled it down a bit 😂

Cuprajake

for me its just slower, but that doesnt really impact much for me, i have mine set half way.

only a single hole steam tip so im finding it really easy to get a swirl and control, the evo was a monster haha, latte art still sucks though

LMSC

Cuprajake the evo was a monster haha, latte art still sucks though

True. It’s very fast and I don’t bother with latte art. One, I can’t do; two, the machine comes up only at week ends and I don’t steam often to practice it; three, you have to be very quick to stop too much foam; four, I am thinking of swapping the other tip (one or two); and, five, IMO, it doesn’t really matter if steaming takes 20s or 40s. 😊

MacPhisto

I was just telling my wife how much I enjoyed the calm leisurely steaming on the Evo compared to my last machine which used a 4 hole tip and blasted the pitcher of milk like it carried a grudge. Now I need to try steaming on a Decent so I can really relax.

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