"For about a hundred years, the basic construction of the portafilter has remained the same. We decided to change that." "This is how we envision the future of espresso shot preparation." - *Weber* Now I love innovation in the espresso world, but this just seems utterly pointless AND its $365! Weber really are the Apple of the espresso world… [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/h1Ov2Rh.png]

@"Sham"#p14287 Wow! With VAT, import duty and postal, it would be almost 1:1 in sterling terms. Still a doughnut extraction! https://youtu.be/q2A_rAdprrM

![Giphy - Hammer Floor GIF by VPRO](https://media4.giphy.com/media/VEVfqy0Vu4c7xziUUN/giphy.gif?cid=bb77869f6xf8y32qan0m97daht8qdzm7e8xxdfyvy80lqnge&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g) ive just realized it doesnt have a basket!

@"Cuprajake"#p14290 The innovation is that it's 1 piece! 🤣

so they have innovately made it harder to clean!

> @"Cuprajake"#p14293 so they have innovately made it harder to clean! Don't underestimate it: It's also one size basket per PF, so now any additional basket you want is another $365. This is quite a breakthrough!

wow, cant wait to see the influencer spin on this,

Actually US$494 - $US534 depending on the style and ... get this ... sold out.

@"tompoland"#p14297 It says starting at 365 for me on their site? [upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/ZiZpMg2.png] I think these guys are exaggerating how complex it is to make… Looks like a standard CNC milled piece with laser ablated holes…Nothing really worth that price tag. They must be making some fat profits from this.

IMHO Weber is starting to lose credibility with non sensical promotional copy such as this: "No more endless wiping, citric acid, or vinegar baths to remove grime. Use it, rinse it, wipe it, and it stays perptually clean. Since you aren't subjecting your basket to repeated acid baths, it will last virtually forever." Interestingly, in the five minutes that I copied the above from the Weber website the word "perpetually" with was replaced with "endlessly". Not sure it's much better. I am a fan of Weber products however I wish they would tone down the hype.

It's crazy what people will buy, probably on brand name alone, so very much the Apple of coffee! I'm sure anyone with a good knowledge of machining could knock something like this up for a lot less. I wonder if they'll go to the level of VST and show the QC on the basket holes to prove uniformity. I'll stick to my £30 basket and PF handle I have.

The $365 portafilter

JahLaza

Imagine how good the coffee would taste!! … Forever!!

hornbyben

They should obviously do one in gold too, so that it heats up quicker due to the better thermal conductivity. It’s bound to make your coffee better! 🤣

DavecUK

hornbyben They should obviously do one in gold too, so that it heats up quicker due to the better thermal conductivity. It’s bound to make your coffee better! 🤣

I remember the gold plated E61 groups….Sounded like a good idea…when I saw them, I thought they looked awfull. This was about 18 years ago now…don’t think any machines use them now.

hornbyben

DavecUK they definitely sound like the sort of think that would look bling in a bad way. Although, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so who am I to judge.

Frothbewithyou

This sold out to every coffee youtuber most of this forum hate “THE WORLDS BEST PORTAFILTER?!?” shocked face

“Hi guys Jared here firstly like & subscribe, my patreons have allowed me to test this amazing new revolutionary device and I will give you my honest upfront evaluation how it may change YOUUURRR wUUURLD”

15 minutes later…

“While overcosted…”

Sham

🤣

tompoland

Surely this product is just an elaborate April Fools joke?

Either way, it’s going to put a dent in their brand credibility.

DavecUK

tompoland I did wonder Tom!

CafeNoir

Cuprajake “The Apple of the coffee world” is a perfect call…oh dear lord, gobsmacked am I……was it P.T. Barnum said about a fool and their money being easily parted?

Otaibimn

If you are gonna make a decent basket why attach a permanent portafilter to it?

Sham

Otaibimn So you can release an upgraded detachable version a year later for $465.

Otaibimn

Sham

tompoland

It just won an award https://coffeeexpo.org/discover-expo...awards-winners

Which sounds impressive until you look at the other finalists being a travel mug and an eco-paper cup.

CafeNoir

tompoland Quite a rich vein of comedy gold that Sham chanced upon, lol

DavecUK

tompoland the link gives a page not found message, so my morning laugh is missing.

I know someone from HB is testing one, and I think Weber are advertiser’s. So it will be interesting what they say and what future owners find.

tompoland

DavecUK sorry about that. You can navigate to the awards finalists tab from here I hope https://coffeeexpo.org/discover-expo/2022/4/8/congratulations-to-the-2022-best-new-product-awards-winners

DavecUK

tompoland It’s the coffee Oscars, with the industry just pleasuring itself!

FadedFrontiers

Makes me laugh given that all the specialist basket manufacturers now recommend replacing your basket frequently for best results, I know this is also marketing spin but you’d expect a portafilter handle to outlive a basket in most cases. So now if you want to replace one you have to replace both, if there’s any few hundred dollar PFs in stock that is…!

Weber Workshops showing again why they’re the Apple of the coffee world, creating overpriced solutions to problems that nobody knew existed.

Stevebee

From what I’ve seen the thing that might make a difference wrt extraction is the fact the that diameter covered by holes on a VST is 48mm whereas on this one it is 58mm, a significant increase.

What the effect is I’ve no idea and am never going to spend that sort of money to find out but I know some already have one and no doubt info will follow soon.

Otaibimn

Stevebee Prepare yourself to those who will state that it’s the best innovation since the invention of the E61 grouphead.

Cuprajake

Id argue its the best extraction ever, then there will be a lovely slow motion shot, followed by a please like and subscribe with no real world data or tds/refractometer readings 😂😱🤷

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