Here we go! * Out of box burrs give traditional style and not modern style espresso * Require Mazzer or SSP burrs set * Not leap and bounds better than DF64 * Requires some alignment https://youtu.be/iGJ5mY5LiHI

Can't stand that bloke. Pure paid review and my god those hands ![Giphy - season 1 workout GIF by Fox TV](https://media3.giphy.com/media/ieP5jI3S06bps6yOYu/giphy.gif?cid=bb77869fwlymqdlu5aqzthkya6mhrirx9c3ntbwr9e51uoy5&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

Apparently his day job is a preacher in some branch of Christianity. This does help understand his character a bit. You know, plus he's Canadian.

I’m the video he says he gave up his day job and that channel is his main bread winner now. I watched it… I’m not convinced of the product tbh.

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p27944 oh wow, bold move. It has potential to be better built than the DF64 but that's a pretty low bar.

Perhaps his sweatshirt says it all 🙂

I could not watch it.....why do Youtubers think you have to start with a catchphrase from a Nineties beer commercial still (even though he did not, but his style makes me want to puke!)

Another one! https://youtu.be/u27g9Xw5TRE

@"dfk41"#p28502 It does look as if that thing needs a miracle, indeed. 😁

DF83 - first impressions

CoyoteOldMan

Alignment out of the box seems pretty good… especially if you got that without running the grinder (hand turning only)

prezes

CoyoteOldMan I should’ve done the same with the original italmil burrs to compare but couldn’t be bothered !

wilburpan

prezes My DF83 was very similar with the stock burrs in terms of alignment. The bottom burr was very well aligned, and the top one was pretty good. It only needed one round of shimming to get the top one aligned well.

prezes

Photo of grinds below. This has been ground straight to the portafilter. The static is acceptable with this bean although gets much worse when using the puffer hence the scattered grinds on the side of the dosing ring

MediumRoastSteam

prezes Third grind 8g in - 8g out without using the bellows.

But what’s the exchange retention behind the chute screeen?

prezes

MediumRoastSteam that’s next on the list to check. Might get around to doing it today

Cuprajake

Bottom carrier looks very mazzer.

I really don’t like bellows. Makes hell of a mess

prezes

Cuprajake same here! Not a fan of them at all

whinmoor85

Cuprajake I’ve always thought of bellows as more of a hack rather than a well designed solution for grind retention. Why people use silicone nipple suckers on a Niche is beyond me 😂

DavecUK

whinmoor85 He probably had it knocking around the bedroom and thought…I know…

Inspector

Well I gave it a go just for giggles, hope my son doesn’t mind a bit of coffee flavour 🤣 0.15gr

CoyoteOldMan

Inspector It’s good to start them early!

prezes

Got around to see what’s inside and didn’t find a lot to be fair. Some grounds in the burrs as expected and a bit between the sweeper arms by the chute. I was expecting a large chunk by the chute screen. So hard to establish the weight. What I managed to weigh up was 0.6g but at least another 1g sitting inside if not more. Had about 600g through the grinder.

Couldn’t be bothered to removed the burrs from the carriers today so this might be packed lol

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Little update on the grinder. Had just under 2kg of coffee through it now to try to at least touch the seasoning of those burrs.

I’ve been trying to match the grind settings to the niche to have some sort of reference of where to start etc. and what change does one mark make.

Tried using the spray bottle and noticed huge improvement with the grounds spraying. It’s not horrendous without it but stops pretty much completely using WDT.

What I noticed is although I tend to get what I put in weight wise when I adjust grind setting there’s a bit extra coming down so it has to be stuck somewhere. Due to that decided to remove the chute cover and see what’s going on in there.

Upon removing had some grinds scatter on the worktop so didn’t get a chance to weigh it but had to be in excess of 1g.

Left it without the cover and will watch what’s going on in there.

MediumRoastSteam

prezes there’s a bit extra coming down so it has to be stuck somewhere

When I watched a few videos a few months ago of the DFxx grinders being dissasembled, the biggest issue was grinds getting stuck behind the chute screen (aka:declumper) due to its design, where, even if you use the bellows to blow, there will be grinds stuck there.

prezes

MediumRoastSteam thanks . That’s what I’m trying to get to the bottom of. There’s no visible grinds stuck from the burr chamber side so thought I’ll watch what’s going on at the other end.

MediumRoastSteam

prezes That’s what I’m trying to get to the bottom of.

https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/1048-electric-grinder/14

Not sure how it applies to the DF83 but the idea is there. They might have changed things as those grinders seem to be constantly evolving.

dutchy101

The DF64 had similar issues. I ended up changing my clump crusher to one I got iff etsy and it’s made a huge difference

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MediumRoastSteam @dutchy101 thanks a lot 👍🏽

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I’ve been using the grinder with the cover off and it seems most of the retained grinds stop inside the chute. One or two taps release them nicely but this won’t work with the cover off I assume.

I’ll test using air blower from the bottom as this might be another option to clear retained grinds. There isn’t a lot retained I’d say it varies between 0.1-.02g.

I will also try remove one part or both of the clump crusher to see what difference does it make.

I am enjoying the coffee from it which is most important.

tompoland

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try rubbing bees wax on the chute. it worked wonders with the Honne chute.

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