I've gotten in contact with ACS about the Minima cost since I can't find a UK retailer and Maria got back to me with a standard stainless steel Minima for €1200,00 (approx. £1050) including shipping to UK with 24 months of warranty where they will support for any issue/s or replacements (free of charge for the warranty period) by emails, pictures and video calls. Am I right in thinking this is a fantastic price right?

@"Verion"#p28064 It used to retail £1179 to £1379. Please note, unless they have advised you otherwise, you will be charged VAT and import duties by DHL for customs clearance in the UK.

@"LMSC"#p28065 Good point about the VAT and import duties by DHL for customs clearance in the UK. I'll ask Maria about that.

Still a good price though. Is there another dual boiler in or around that price available from a UK retailer?

id buy now before it goes 2 euro to a pound haha there a good machine tbf

@"Verion"#p28066 One point to note - there should be no duties, only VAT, as the machine is made in the EU. I was charged (incorrectly) a fairly minimal amount of duty on my ACS machine, and I didn't challenge it. I was charged a much higher % amount on a recent import of a sweater (from Italy, as it happens)… and DHL backpedalled very quickly when I challenged them. Just make sure that ACS adds a declaration of origin to the paperwork if you go the 'direct from manufacturer' route.

@"dfk41"#p28067 The only dual boiler that comes close is the Lelit Elizabeth v3 at Bella Barista for £1,149 in price. But I'm not into the design. Maybe it looks too much like my current Sage DTP which I'm ready to move on from after a number of years. If Black Cat Coffee had the stainless steel Minima in stock it would have been £1,279, so the prices direct assuming I am liable for VAT and Import duties makes it around £1,260(ish). If not, then it makes it better value at £1,050 with everything included than the Lelit Elizabeth v3 or if I wanted an HX machine, then the Lelit Mara X v2. The next jump is closer to £1,800 with the Lelit Bianca v3 or something from Profitec or ECM. It's a lot of money when a Minima is a lot, lot less.

@"CoyoteOldMan"#p28071 Can I assume you bought your Minima direct?

@"Verion"#p28073 It was a Vesuvius Evo Leva, but yes - direct from ACS, so dealing with exactly the same people and carrier that you'd be!

@"Cuprajake"#p28070 Would be good if it did go 2 euro to the pound - Minima would only cost £600! Sadly parity is more likely.

haha you know what i mean lol the bianca is a different kettle of fish, alot more for your money than the minima - but its £600 more

ACS Minima

Verion

Abcan Amazing news! I wonder if you got the updated PID. Definitely want to see pics once you’ve set it up.

Abcan

Verion thanks. Hopefully it will. It’s scheduled for delivery on the 24th of Aug. I’ll get some photos on and check if it’s got the boiler drains too.

MediumRoastSteam

ams that’s good to know, now I just need to confirm with ACS the distance between the middle of the back and front feet

I remembering asking this question before when I was considering a Minima - If memory doesn’t fail me, it’s 41cm.

ams

MediumRoastSteam if that’s the case then seems like it’d fit as the depth of the table is 43 cm.

ams

Abcan I queried ACS a few weeks regarding drainage of the Minima boilers and I was informed both boilers have taps underneath.

ams

Abcan did you receive the Minima yet and if so what are your initial impressions?

DavecUK

ams I queried ACS a few weeks regarding drainage of the Minima boilers and I was informed both boilers have taps underneath.

This is correct and they are accessible via an access hatch under the machine, so the case doesn’t have to be removed.

PortafilterProcrastinator

ams Fair enough. I leave a tea towel over my group for various reasons and that helps in these situations too.

Abcan

ams

Not yet! It was stuck in Milan due to some paperwork problem. It’s due to arrive late this week.

Abcan

For those interested: the machine has landed in the UK and I’ve paid the VAT/Cahrges. The total was £242. Made up of £231 VAT and £11 DHL admin charge.

Dusk

I might have missed but how much was the machine itself?

Abcan

Dusk I haven’t actually posted that. I paid €1334 for a black one which on the day I paid worked out at around £1150.

DavecUK

Abcan I haven’t actually posted that. I paid €1334 for a black one which on the day I paid worked out at around £1150.

That’s an absolute bargain for a dual boiler machine of that quality, with larger boilers than many dual boiler machines….for sure a larger steam boiler than almost all prosumer machines.

dutchy101

This works out very close to what I paid for mine (in black) almost 2 years ago now. Considering how much everything had gone up in price in that time, I think you’ve got a great deal there.

Hope you love the machine as much as I do.

Abcan

Thanks dutchy101. Yes, I thinks it’s a decent price.

Abcan

She’s arrived! Anything I should look out for on set up? (I’ll be following the manual instructions)

DavecUK

Nah it’s a simple machine, just remember the pump has a timeout of 2m, an alarm code can happen when first filling the boilers on the minima, Especially as the service boiler is very large. Avoid this by turning off the pump after one minute of operation, wait ten seconds and then turn it on again.

Should this happen, just switch the machine off at the plug. Wait a few moments and then switch it on again.

Abcan

@DavecUK here’s a couple of pics of the inside. I take it the tap on the service boiler is the drain you mentioned previously?

DavecUK

Abcan here’s a couple of pics of the inside. I take it the tap on the service boiler is the drain you mentioned previously?

It is, the other tap is the drain for the brew boiler.

ams

@Abcan Looking forward to more pics :)

ams

(also love that the first pics are of the internals)

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