About 8 am (7 am our time) on the way to the factory. Garage and breakfast area with lever coffee machine and baristas. Vesuvius in the background. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/i9xF31M.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/i9xF31M.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Spending my first day at ACS. The storage and extra production equipment, is a equal sized area on the right of this one. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/EJiqCBh.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/EJiqCBh.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

You might have seen my Minima being packed up today and picked up by DHL. Some really machines in different states of being made.

@"DavecUK"#p28878 great to see the story of these great machines, look forward to seeing more of the journey 👍

@"Verion"#p28885 I saw two Minima machines wrapped up ready for collection today, and by 4pm they had gone. One was for David Kidd, the other for someone else I the UK I think, which must have been you.

@"DavecUK"#p28905 definitely me. Got my DHL import duty bill at 6pm. Hopefully delivered by 24th October but fingers crossed it’s earlier.

@"Verion"#p28907 I received pick up notification but I have not received my Import `Duty bill. That is normally issued when it lands in the UK before it clears customs. The delivered before is a nonsense. They say that to give them 7 days in which to deliver it in case you live in a remote area!

@"dfk41"#p28908 I live in NW London, so hopefully on a delivery van and a swift journey round the M25 soon after it lands.

@"Verion"#692 @"dfk41"#4 Congratulations!

View from Paolo's Balcony, it's 8:30 Saturday and Naples coming to life. No factory today (well I hope not) because it's Saturday, but we were building something yesterday, hoping it will now wait until Monday. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/YYAMNsM.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/YYAMNsM.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

@"DavecUK"#p28913 - you got to have mozzarella di bufala while you are there. I’m sure @"Paolo_Cortese"#90 can source some really good freshly made stuff. Just don’t have it with coffee. 🤣👌👍

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p28921 You are bit of a food connoisseur aren't you :) Also definitely try Neapolitan **🍕** **Enjoy your visit there!**

My time in Naples

Rob666

Love Italian coffees!

Knluk

Rob666 me too. I am still trying to develop my taste and learn to like light roast. I think there should be something I missed as I can see so many experts love light roast.

MediumRoastSteam

Knluk so many experts love light roast.

What’s an expert?

Surely taste is subjective? Whether you are an expert or or, is it relevant? I like the flavours of light roasts. Doesn’t make me an expert. Far from it. In fact, once I took a light roasted coffee to Dave’s and he thought the coffee was a roast defect, and he’s definitely an expert. It’s a matter of taste. There’s no right or wrong.

I think a medium/dark roast is easier to get right, it’s easier to to deal with and it’s a crowd pleaser.

dfk41

Knluk Shandy drinkers like light roasts!

Rob666

Knluk I’ve tried to like the lighter roasts but truth is the whole family hates them. An oft heard cry of “If I wanted fruit juice I’d drink it!” We all like chocolate, caramel, nutty and smoky notes so, dark it is.

Doram

MediumRoastSteam It’s a matter of taste. There’s no right or wrong.

It’s a matter of taste, but some thing are just wrong. :-) (I read that the queen used to like her steak well done ;-).

MediumRoastSteam

dfk41 - if you say so.

Knluk

Rob666 - I bought some highly rated medium light roast to try. I thought that a good way to test my skill as it is trickier to extract. I think I was able to extracted some fruity note. It was some red fruit note. We were firstly very excited and then it tasted like some nice fruit tea with lots of clarity. Once milk is added, it tastes like milk shake to us. It was interesting to enjoy and “comfortable” to drink with. We went for medium dark to dark since then. But one day, I hope I can try one of the truely brewed light roast coffee to confirm whether I made it right or not.

MediumRoastSteam

Just show how subjective taste is. And, someone who likes chocolate or caramel, can say exactly the same things: “if you want chocolate, have a chocolate”, or if you want caramel or nuts, go and have them.

You don’t need to drink shandy in order to enjoy a fruity coffee. Similarly you don’t need to be a smoker or a heavy drinker whose tastebuds are completely shot in order to enjoy a dark roast either. @dfk41, as you can see I’m offended by your comment and I’m now going to sulk all day! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I don’t really drink shandy, honestly! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

And with regards to the family… consider yourselves lucky! My wife drinks instant coffee! Whether I offer her a light or a medium or a dark roast, she won’t have it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

coffeealex

MediumRoastSteam Just show how subjective taste is

I think you are right, it is totally subjective and probably influenced by your life experiences. I personally prefer darker roasts as I like a stronger edge to the coffee, but nothing wrong with lighter roasts if someone prefers that. At the end of the day its all about choice and satisfaction, and to that end there are many different pathways.

Knluk

MediumRoastSteam - my wife always use hazelnut/oat milk to make latte with the espresso machine. It kind of tastes good to me but I feel it is not real coffee. When drink black, she also prefers filtered than my espresso. I have not found love with filter coffee or Americano yet.

coffeealex

CoyoteOldMan I do like an Italian coffee, and my experience of coffee around the Naples area is that although very strong, it normally has a great full bodied mouthfeel with excellent crema, and is also a delight cutting through milk ( with some help from the Robusta side)

Knluk

coffeealex when I read Dave’s comment on black as coal, I felt embarrassed to share that I had some very good espresso is many cafe in Naples. One of them was in the arrival hall of airport :)

coffeealex

Knluk I did not think Dave meant the comment as a negative one in terms of quality, I believe he was just referring to the way the coffee looked and its strength. He will of course correct me If I am wrong. Personally I don’t believe you should feel embarrassed to share the fact that you have had many good espresso’s in Naples as Napoli is considered by many where the real authentic Italian coffee is served, and arguably rated as the best in class for espresso lovers. You might have noticed that in most cafes (of which Naples boasts many) they will serve you water with the coffee. For many that is used to cleanse the pallet before you drink the coffee, so you can appreciate its quality. You compare that to your Costa type coffee where as part of the choice is small, medium or large for say cappuccino, which no bar in Naples would entertain as there is only one size. The right size.

DavecUK

Doram As do I, although I can’t get the tenderest cuts like the queen no doubt could.

hysaf

Say hi to Paolo from me and a big hug to the dogs!

DavecUK

Just arrived, drain valves. Soon to be standard (from next few weeks) on Vesuvius Evo and E61 brew and steam boilers. For Minima, steam boiler only due to lack of room. Looks like we’re being listened to.

LMSC

DavecUK We can say Coffeetime drain valve, can’t we?

PortafilterProcrastinator

DavecUK Nice.

Can a drain valve be retrofitted to the Minima? I think I remember something about sieve being an issue there too.

LMSC

PortafilterProcrastinator Can a drain valve be retrofitted to the Minima?

You will be ok. The Evo’s boilers are the same.

This should help

https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/blog/885-vesuvius-evo-leva-installing-drain-valves-on-the-boilers

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