DavecUK But in fairness, in the old days pre Evo Leva, a combination of having a forum like CFUK that allowed the shameless commercialism where a lot of the better known ‘folks’ made a fortune from it. Londinium was placed on a pedestal, starting with Glenn the owner. They could do no wrong plus there was very little opposition in reality. Now that there is, who in their right mind buys something that has not kept up with the requirements of time. They cannot claim the ‘traditional’ mantle as they run an app with pre-infusion. Now that the relationship between their chief UK protagonist (hi Dave, Seasons Greetings matey) seems to have broken down they are not represented commercially in the UK anyway. Their own forum is just full of nodding dogs wshing to pay homage to the alter that once was Reiss. Perhaps they will surprise us all and bring something new to the market…..ooppss, they tried that with the Vectis which was so thoroughly tested before entering the market the claim on their blog was the Vectis is the finished product, the Vectis will never be changed or improved…….LOL. That claim was soon removed from their blog but never mind. They only preach to their acolytes and they will not care