Just made my first 5l of water.

I took 5l from the zero jug and added 0.32gms of sodium bicarbonate.
Result is:
KH 196
GH 53.7
TDS 198

Does that seem right and safe to stick in my machine?

Ps apologies for what may be a silly question, I’m struggling to understand water 🤔

    No such thing as a silly question. The GH measurement is a bit suspect as there shouldn’t be any calcium or magnesium in there… but it depends on what the kit is actually measuring (e.g. it may interpret the Na^+^ ions as ‘half’ of Ca^++^)

      Penance TDS 198

      hmmmm…. This doesn’t seem right. I measure the TDS sometimes just to check I haven’t messed up the concentrate or maybe added twice the amount to the same bottle while leaving the other one without anything… :-)

      For the concentration I use, approx. 0.1g of sodium bicarbonate (or potassium bicarbonate) for one litre, the TDS comes up around 50ppm using my el cheapo TDS metre.

      TDS 198 seem quite a lot. For you to have an idea, when I flush my service boiler, on a bi-monthly cycle, the TDS is approx. 175ppm, and that’s expected.

      So you are effectively using a concentration of 0.064g of sodium bicarbonate per litre. That’s almost half of what I use - which is fine. But something is not adding up.

      Are you sure you didn’t add 3.2g of sodium bicarbonate?

        CoyoteOldMan the GH may be off as I struggled to see the colour so added another drop. Assuming I got that wrong it would put GH at 35. Maybe lower as the first drop gave no discernable colour.

        MediumRoastSteam definitely 0.32gms. Edit: definitely not!!
        Maybe I’ll scrap this water and try just 1 litre.

        There’s a good chance you’re not using the test kit properly based on your comments. You’re best off using a 20ml sample. You can put it in a small cup e.g an espresso cup.

        Shake the bottles for testing KH and GH. Completely invert the bottles to make sure the drops are the same each time, if you hold the bottles at an angle you’ll get inconsistent results as you add each drop. Stir the sample after each drop (I just stir continuously and add the drops every 5 seconds or so). You probably won’t get too much colour at all in the samples with the amount of reagent you’ll be adding. You don’t keep adding until you get a “bright” colour, you stop at the first sign of colour change.

        It’s also good to understand what the kit is measuring. Take your GH for example. You have a set of instructions that tell you 1 drop = 17.9mg/l (as in the colour just changes immediately). With the 5ml sample you know that you have anywhere from 0-17.9mg/l Hardness. If it takes two drops you know you have between 18mg/l - 35.8mg/l etc. With a 20ml sample the accuracy of the test increases x 4 e.g. 4 drops = 17.9 mg/l so the range you are measuring is reduced to +/-4.475mg/l compared to +/- 17.9mg/l.

        If you’ve added 0.36g Sodium Bicarb to 5l water you should have an alkalinity of 43.5mg/l

        0.1g in 1 litre is just about 60mg/l………you have measured your alkalinity to be 53.8mg/l - 71.6mg/l

        Your second attempt was obviously more successful.

          Rob1 thanks, that’s really helpful.
          So KH is alkalinity?
          What is GH?

          I see what you mean about accuracy. As 3 drops is x and 4 drops is y, changing colour at 3 drops would mean anywhere between x and y.
          When I mix up the next bottle I will use 20ml to test.

          GH is hardness and you should have almost none with zero water.

          Another 5l done, 500mg bicarb.
          I used 20ml sample, KH took 17 drops.
          So 17*(17.9/4) = KH 76.07
          GH was 0 or near too.
          TDS 53

          Does this seem OK?

            Penance Sounds much more in line with expectations - I would have expected a KH of 60, but the coffee will be fine at 70-80 too; it looks as if the TDS meter is incorrectly calibrated (perhaps for a higher temp? Usually they are calibrated at 25 C, so if you are testing in a house at 18 C, it’s normal to get a lower read)

              CoyoteOldMan I’m wondering if the scales used are a bit off, did a second 5l bottle and got a KH of 67 with the same weight of bicarb.

                Penance Could be - but then again, you are within 1 drop of each other (as in: +1 on the “low KH” one, and -1 on the “high KH” are the same count), so they aren’t too far out!

                So long as its OK to use I’m happy