DavecUK I was happy to take a punt as its relative cheap - a bit different to the 2 conical hand grinders, pretty small in size etc. I guess all I really need is something for when I am making drinks back to back and so a hand grinder would be less than ideal.

Not sure though that I need to consider spending oodles of cash on a grinder - I doubt I would notice all the “differences” in my milk drinks. Maybe a used niche zero is a way to go… not sure I can think of much else in the single dosing market.

    LMSC Did he make a decision in the end 😂 - I watched/skimmed the other video

    Which seemed more like a promotion to remind you the kickstarter price is going up again…..

        MattH make a decision in the end

        I watched skipping clips.😀

        He liked the MP burrs on DF64 for turbo shots (for < medium roast). He also said the stock burrs of both DF64v (diamond cut) and 64s made sweet and nice coffee. He initially said he liked shot from the 064s better than Df64. But, later observed comparison is a difficult call as there are many moving parameters like roast type, process (natural, washed, anaerobic), etc.

          Nothing like being vague so as not to upset anyone.. - I am still undecided as to whether to drop it and look elsewhere

            MattH ah you were going for the 068, I forgot. Well I suppose it’s more expensive even than the 078 as well

              I wonder what the point is at which you start to diminishing returns. I think Lance Hedrick touched on this in one of his videos but I can’t remember what grinder he was referring to :)

              Because it makes me think, I seem to remember the role of thumb was to spend a certain % on your grinder, I seem to recall the advise was more on the grinder even, but my memory is awful!

              I imagine that’s not a good rule anymore, you can buy machines that are easily 1-2k and then some, and it seems £700 on a grinder gets you something perfectly fine.

              11 days later

              Yeh I saw this, I need to re-watch it. He didn’t seem to focus much on espresso or the 078s, and I’m sure he said the 078s realises the full potential of the coffee but then at the end seemed to say it was ok, I was watching whilst distracted though..

                Inspector I was hoping it would be more of a glowing recommendation than it was :) I’ve backed the 078s, not really sure what to go for - other options are more expensive (DF83 maybe? Niche Zero?) but I’d rather buy one to last for a while, would rather not sell in a couple of months

                    caffeinated-carp in the same boat. I think after watching the review it is a good option for the price. He was just very focussed on filter over espresso.

                    I too would rather spend a little more on something I’ll keep. I’m also pretty sure the Niche after the possible VAT on the Timemore isn’t much more (if at all) in the UK.

                        I might just bin my 064s pledge and just pickup the solo compact bella are selling for 199

                          Niche zero was rated as 60% and the 078S was able to exploit the full potential of the coffee. I’m more interested in how the 078S compares to the Niche Duo. I think he said he prefers flat burrs which could explain why he didn’t prefer Niche zero.

                            Emc2 he does seem to not like the niche in general. I can’t remember why now

                            MattH I might just bin my 064s pledge and just pickup the solo compact bella are selling for 199

                            May be irrelevant but the 064 just sounds very weedy. It sounds like it’s struggling, may well be rubbish and it makes little or no difference to how it grinds but it just sounds a bit…meh

                                  BrewLiam apparently the price you see will be the final price, no import duty etc. even if there was no more than the niche zero is only about £70 more in the UK

                                    caffeinated-carp I can’t remember why now

                                    Most likely because if he says he likes it, he won’t get as many viewers. One of the situations where he made his mind a while back and it’s unlikely he’ll change it now.

                                    Most (maybe all?) of us associate Lance with someone who doesn’t like the Niche, at least not the taste it produces for the coffee he drinks for his own palate - which is no doubt a subjective thing anyway.

                                    I’d be interested to hear what he says about the Duo. I think I already know, bit nonetheless, we shall see when he gets to it.

                                      Well it’s not a 78s we found out in the vid, no one seems to have the official 78s

                                      My bug bear is you can’t compare a conical to flats. It’s not a fair fight. That and he really dislikes the zero. A better option would of been a df64 which is similar.

                                      Decent De1pro v1.45 - Niche Duo - Niche Zero - Decent is the best machine ever made -