Hello, My mara X version 1 is idling at 1.5 in brew priority mode setting one with the temp switch at normal. Little bit of steam escaping from the group too. Is that normal. I thought it would idle about 0.5. ![](https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1rhn2xp6x4pf3y/PXL_20230113_144704202.mp4?dl=0) Please see video showing it idling https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1rhn2xp6x4pf3y/PXL_20230113_144704202.mp4?dl=0

Mine idles around 0.9 or 1 bar in brew priority at the middle temp, switch pushed to the left and has done since I’ve had it.

@"pete4eyes"#p35341 I was thinking this was probably not in character. This is in temp position 0.

@"StevenG91"#p35342 How is the switch at the side set, have you tried it in the other position, just in case?

@"DavecUK"#p35382 Okay so I put it into switch position 0 which should be steam priority. In this position it took 50 minutes for the temperature light to go off and idles at 1 bar. Ive attached a video of pulling a shot. After pulling a shot there is no steam boost either. So I am definitely confused. Temperature is position 0 too. There was absolutely no power for milk, it could barely steam when I made milk and couldn't get the milk rolling (stayed at 1 bar and under). The element also seems to kick in during the shot. Ps this machine is still under warranty (4 year warranty at BB) https://www.dropbox.com/s/pb2kfe22rky9dsa/PXL_20230114_085528512.mp4?dl=0 [URL=https://i.imgur.com/KSsIOqj.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/KSsIOqj.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

@"StevenG91"#p35398 - if the machine is still under warranty, did you contact BB? If so, did they say anything or have they dismissed as normal?

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p35400 To be honest not much. I spoke with them on the phone and they told me what I was experiencing was normal, and the switch was probably the wrong way around 😅 Even then, that doesn't account for some of the other things that's happening. BB said if I was concerned to email their support team with a video and they would look into it, so I'm stuck waiting to here back really. Guess I'm looking for confirmation that there is actually an issue and that I'm not going mad. This machine is 2nd hand, and BB transferred the warranty to me. So I've never had a Mara X before but from my observations it doesn't seem to be functioning as should. Maybe @"DavecUK"#1 will have some comments?!?

@"StevenG91"#p35426 - which version of machine is it? If v1, check the video link below. Which means, the switch pressed down “0” depressed, is in brew priority mode, I.e.: clever machine. If in position “1” - 1 depressed, it’s a dumb HX machine. As far as I remember. https://youtu.be/PvOfsyN5Bjs Edit: I’m talking nonsense. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Review: https://coffeeequipmentreviews.wordpress.com/2020/03/10/lelit-marax-review-in-progress/ If you check some of the threads here, there were initial machines where the temp sensor malfunctioned or the gicar box was somehow behaving strangely. Hopefully someone with a MaraX can confirm things for you.

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p35429 So as if stated in my first post, in the switch up position 1 as Dave states in the video it should be brew temperature priority (however in this mode it sits at 1.5 bars and doesn't move and element continually kicks in). As per my post above with the machine pressed down in position 0 which should be hx mode it idles at 1 bar and doesn't fluctuate, but takes 50 minutes to warm up, and can't steam for shit 😅.

. Edit: I don’t have the machine so best for me not to say much by watching videos, specially when things have changed with the machine overtime. Check this: https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/417-lelit-mara-x-v1-and-v2-the-differences

> @"StevenG91"#p35430 [MediumRoastSteam](https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/1405/9) > > So as if stated in my first post, in the switch up position 1 as Dave states in the video it should be brew temperature priority (however in this mode it sits at 1.5 bars and doesn’t move and element continually kicks in). As per my post above with the machine pressed down in position 0 which should be hx mode it idles at 1 bar and doesn’t fluctuate, but takes 50 minutes to warm up, and can’t steam for \*\*\*\* 😅. I can confirm that position 1 is Coffee Priority (V1 machine). This should be similar on a V2 machine, although on the V2 this is confusingly named "Xmode Steam". On both versions (V1 and V2), position 1 on the switch on the right side means that the machine will idle at a good brewing temperature (focusing on the coffee), and then will boost up the heat/pressure once the machine is used (steam boost is triggered by lifting the lever or purging the steam wand or the hot water tap). The difference between V1 and V2 is that in V2 the steam boost will be stronger and longer (to give more steaming power). I have never used the machine (V1) in the other mode (switch position 0, which in V1 is standard HX mode - machine idles at steam temperatures and needs a cooling flush to bring it down to brew temperatures), so can't say much about that mode. In the following video you can see a time lapse of how my machine's pressure behaves from the moment I turn it on (again, in Brew Priority mode, switch position 1). You can see the quick heat-up cycle (pressure goes up to almost 3), followed by the boiler cooling down and the pressure idling between just above 0.5 bar and around 1 bar: https://youtube.com/shorts/5DOTP7owHZg In this second time lapse video you can see the manometer after a shot (first half a second is a steam boost to around 1.5 bar, and then it cools down and returns to idling at brew temperature: https://youtube.com/shorts/-a5u3XuVLm4 I believe that this is the correct functioning of the machine when the side switch is in position 1 (Brew priority on a V1, Xmode steam on a V2 [though on a V2 I would expect a slightly stronger and longer steam boost]). If your machine is functioning differently, my guess is that something is wrong. The obvious culprits would be the temperature probes (there is one at the top and one at the bottom of the boiler; both are the same part), or the Gicar box (the brain controlling the heating elements). As a side note, I have read reports on forums that BB advised owners who had issues that there is a mistake in the Mara X's manual, and that actually position 1 on the side switch is HX mode, and Coffee Priority mode is position 0. This claim is 100% not true for my machine, and I haven't seen a single report from other owners that it is true on their machines. If BB tell you that Coffee Priority is position 0 - I would take that with a whole bag of salt.

Mara X idle pressure

StevenG91

pandabear
Hey,
I actually cleaned the temperature probes. There was some scale on the probes. Very light scale I may add. But I cleaned them with a wire brush and ran a descale of the machine. Never had any problems since.

pandabear

Thanks for the reply! Top and bottom probes? That’s what I’m considering doing with regards to a descale after. I could just about see into the machine after taking the top probe off and there was light scale, nothing worth doing ordinarily perhaps but just for good measure.

StevenG91

pandabear
Yeah I done top and bottom just to be sure. The scale was minimal but it did seem to help along with the descaling cycle. It’s not missed a beat since then. Hopefully it sorts yours 😊

DavecUK

Thinking about it and I have a MaraX with a special display and software so I can see the temps fluctuating in real time, the changes in the brew circuit (HX monitoring) happen rapidly and I guess it must be possible for even light scale to affect response times and thus higher temp variances.

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