The Unknown Hand/Electric grinder

Teaboy

I have had to send mine back, used twice a day in the office and it’s not coped.

dfk41

Teaboy Could you expand a little on that please. I used mine daily initially then put it away. I have been finding that (it might be me being a knacker!) that if I tighten the grind by say half a turn, it was making no difference to the draw time. This meant I could not fine tune to alter the taste. Hopefully, someone will call by soon who is better than I with brewed and we can sort it

Teaboy

dfk41 Yes, sorry apart from the known issue with the slight play in the shaft I was happily using it but had to stop as the lugs are now disintegrating where the motor joins.

I am now looking for a replacement, do you have any recommendations, Kinu, mazzer etc I am unsure as this was my first hand grinder but I don’t want to go wrong twice.

dfk41

Teaboy Ah, how frustrating! I am afraid that I am the wrong person for hand grinders! I think that @Patrick rated the JX Pro range

https://coffeeequipmentreviews.wordpress.com/2019/11/21/1zpresso-jx-and-jx-pro-hand-grinders/

Perhaps @LMSC and @MWJB might chip in

james65477564

Teaboy Wow, the picture suddenly makes sense!

I have used mine a reasonable amount and no similar signs.

Teaboy

dfk41 thank you for that, I am thinking German made or Italian? Not sure what make or model though.

Teaboy

james65477564 mine I used 2 to 3 times a day every day at work and have done since end July.

MWJB

Teaboy Strange requirement to go by country, I’d go by features & support.

I don’t think grinders that adjust underneath, without clear visible indication of grind setting are ideal, but I have the Commandante X25 that grinds without too much resistance, finding it better for coarser settings.

There’s also the well regarded Kinu grinders from Germany.

Not sure there is much choice other than the very expensive Mazzer hand grinders from Italy.

Also consider maybe Made by Knock, 1Zpresso, Lido?

Teaboy

MWJB sorry, not specifically going by country, my thoughts are that anything can be made anywhere with the correct specs and materials.

Support is important but I really want a hand grinder that can be used day in day out without needing support, commondante or Kinu as mazzer are pricey, the trouble with Kinu though seems to be supply. I am not sure.

MediumRoastSteam

Teaboy

Kinu M47 - German company, but I think the workshop is in Romania if memory serves me right.

Mazzer Omega - Italian company, and presumably made in Italy.

Patrick

Teaboy Yes, sorry apart from the known issue with the slight play in the shaft I was happily using it but had to stop as the lugs are now disintegrating where the motor joins.

Just seen the photo, can’t believe it, the motor lugs are polycarbonate, how on earth have they damaged the metal??

I will check the prototype one I have carefully tomorrow…especially as the improved production ones should be arriving soon!!

Dusk

Teaboy

Knock grinders are made in the UK and spares can be bought for them or it can be sent back for a service. They’re very well made and I’ve given mine plenty of use and it’s still in very good condition.

LMSC

I have a JX Pro. It’s great and well made. This was my daily driver for 2.5 years both for espresso and filters. I have the Niche Duo now.

Cuprajake

Can usually get seconds knock grinders on eBay too.

FadedFrontiers

Dusk Knock grinders are made in the UK and spares can be bought for them or it can be sent back for a service.

Dusk they used to be all made in the UK but now produced in China and assembled in the UK iirc, still good quality but they shifted production some time back! MbK has a bad reputation for customer service (as it was one guy doing everything so lots of enquiries were just ignored) but maybe they’ve since improved, I’m not sure.

@Teaboy I’d personally recommend 1zpresso, they have a good quality to cost balance compared to Commandante and Kinu. Even their mid tier range seems to grind faster than MBK and Commandante.

Teaboy

Cuprajake I will look on eBay, I just had a look at their website and everything is sold out, are they still making grinders?

MWJB

Teaboy The Barn in Berlin has 2 iterations of the compact MBK Aergrind in stock.

MediumRoastSteam

Also, machina in Edinburgh: https://machina-coffee.com/collections/hand-coffee-grinders/products/made-by-knock-aergrind-hand-grinder-black

FadedFrontiers

Teaboy yeah their grinders go in and out of stock quite frequently, their seconds are good value just check what version you’re buying first as they often sell older stock with different burr coatings etc.

Teaboy

FadedFrontiers thank you I am also trying to find out more about commondante c60, I don’t make espresso at work and usually have to do more than one grind as I often make one for a friend.

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