This blog post makes for an interesting read, regardless of whether you are a Decent owner.

Rao writes about the Allonge style of espresso and how it’s evolved into what others might call a turbo shot today. But whatever the label, if you want more volume in the cup you may gain value from his post.

https://www.scottrao.com/blog/2023/7/24/my-two-week-espresso-education-on-the-road

With the Robot I prefer the taste of light roasts at around 4:1, I think I’m normally at 4-6 bar.

Some interesting points but also some pretty weak ones like where he suggests that coffee is just too complex to be effectively studied using the scientific method..! Obviously suggests a lack of understanding of science, but also a pure overstatement of the importance of Decent and its community forums. Don’t get me wrong I think the DD is great but it’s not a substitution for actual experimental research, plus they can coexist and even compliment each other.

Then he goes to predict that Decent alongside his new 200USD BH distribution tool will result in more uptake in better light roast coffee extractions - I guess that makes sense if his point of reference is the DD which is still a minority of even light roast specialty coffee enthusiasts.

This quote did jump out to me though given how it challenges the idea that lower fines are generally better for light roasts; he concludes that more fines and higher water ratios are actually better for light roast espresso extraction:

EK[43]s and constant-pressure machines are suboptimal for getting the most from lightly roasted coffee.

He doesnt really mention temperature. Do you think that “correct” flowrate and amount of fines is more important when succesfully brewing light roast?

    Tjyven yeah he doesn’t mention temperature except to say that darker roasts should be pulled shorter at lower temperatures which makes sense. From my experience of modern long espressos like the allonge or turbo I’d certainly say that the flow profile and ratio are the key factors, I can’t imagine temperature having as notable effect unless you go really low.

    you say that, but theres a guy pulling light turbos from a p100 at 87 degrees

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