Evening looks like the Philios is out in the wild (well to someone on youtube !) Looking forward to the review https://youtube.com/shorts/a0Upq7N2v0E?si=O01ykOp7RBmrD5ff

Excitement builds!! Looking at the architecture it looks like someone in the UK too! I have absolutely zero interest in what the influencers think of this one, it’s a day one purchase for me.

@"HarveyMushman"#p60274 yes he is defo in the Uk - i do like his videos! I have not ordered the gbw allground - kinda waiting to see what the philos is like.. tbh nothing wrong with my current allground….. Still cannot see a price officially on the mazzer site - nor of they will have a reseller in the UK rather than a import from Venice.

I might’ve imagined this but I think @"DavecUK"#1 suggested Mazzer will retail this themselves and aim for a sub £1k price point (possibly for early adopters, with a later price rise). I’ve been waiting years for a single-dose, multi-method grinder from a heritage manufacturer that I like the design of. The latter two usually being the reason for me not buying anything yet. Tbh, even if it’s not perfect it’ll be an upgrade on my current setup and like the LM, just nice to own and use.

Looks great. I think I’ve read somewhere it’s between 900-100 euros.

@"Emc2"#p60303 I wish it was a 100 euros 😂

Quick snap from youtube as he has it on the shelf - and gives some nice size comparisons [URL=https://i.imgur.com/c1yDEj3.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/c1yDEj3.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Rumours on HB, so take this with a pinch of salt, are that the Philos has been delayed. Wouldn’t surprise me given the impact global conflicts on supply chains.

Yeah I saw that. Though made me laugh that places took deposits and then refunded especially as I thought that mazzer were selling them direct to start with… but theres no info in the mazzer site either. Just waiting to see the review tbh - anyhow my blind shaker is about to arrive - so something else to play with 😂

Yeah the retailers I've spoken to in the UK said they had no plans to stock it. Looks like it will indeed be Mazzer direct. I can see the reviews being disappointing. There's no shortage of low priced 64mm flats and people who don't care about build quality, place of build and manufacturer heritage are going to say it's overpriced and find plenty of flaws I'm sure. It's an interesting price point because you can get capable single dosers for half the price or less, and it's obviously not going to compete with the top-end grinders like Kafateks etc. I think the only way this will sell well in the current market is if influencers really get behind it. Then again, I don't think Mazzer necessarily need it to sell massively well as the home market still isn't their bread and butter. I'm excited for it and have said before, will be buying it regardless but I don't expect it to be a flawless grinder.

depends really, the build should be better than that of the df and time mores, you would think, but its a saturated market there has been a zerno fs and a kafatec and weber eg1 all around £1500 on the old forum

Mazzer Philos

Adrianmsmith

Cuprajake

haha!! are you wanting a Philos . Can order you one!!

🤪

Cuprajake

Lol just the extra £40 sure you can find something

MediumRoastSteam

Adrianmsmith But we cant order them in the UK!!

Work this out……

UK VAT rules: Above £135 the customer pays. Below that amount, the supplier pays directly to HMRC. A lot of companies in the EU can’t be bothered with that.

JahLaza

Adrianmsmith I am in Ireland, I would gladly help if it worked out. Send pm if you’re interested, or maybe you need to spend that extra 40 quid! But then there’s all that tax 😩

drdre89

The Philos is a behemoth. Be prepared for it to take up some space

Adrianmsmith

drdre89

Really?

Nit sure what you meant ?!

MattH

Adrianmsmith I was after a lid for my Mazzer hand grinder…. I did try to order them before and then Mazzer cancelled it prob because it was below the limit (but the order must has slipped through :) )

Happy to send you the cash if you want to add it to your order if that helps..

Adrianmsmith

MattH

Will see if that looks like it would go through tonight. …..

Adrianmsmith

MattH

That still didn’t get over the minimum , but, if you still need one maybe when the burrs are back in stock , if @Jony needs burrs as well we can get an order together. Allegedly they will allow 2 burr sets for the Philosses(🫣) to be ordered once back in stock 💪🏼🤞🏻🤞🏻

Adrianmsmith

12 weeks later

Decided to clean.

Now heres where i start to think the vertical orientation is an advantage.

Total i managed to scrape up from everything was 0.4g

And then the Duo…..

But, more attributed i think to the decaf beans maybe……

Just over 0.5g but from 5 × 22g grinds.

Last week i had a choked Duo and had to do a toothbrush clean on both burrs.

I am ONLY using it for Decaf and there does seem something different about Decaf in general.

Any ideas?

DavecUK

Adrianmsmith One thing to keep in mind, you can clean behind the driven burr in the Duo, not so in the Philos, which may well account for a little more weight from the duo.

Adrianmsmith

DavecUK

The decaf for some reason seems to want to find its way in to and compact / stay in every inside corner of every “blade” of each burr . Its almost like moulding sand, but doesn’t seem to have a higher moisture content.

The burrs seemed to stay much cleaner with standard medium beans.

dfk41

I used to have several (dozen) Mythoses (someone correct me, Mythii did not look right!) and they have the burrs mounted at 45 degrees or so. This means that when in operation, the only way for the coffee grinds to go, is downwards. As you say, it is surprising that not more manufacturers have caught on

DavecUK

dfk41 I used to have several (dozen) Mythos grinders….would be correct.

Gagaryn

dfk41 Mythoses (someone correct me …)

Correct!

DavecUK Probably the most correct form would be

I used to have several (dozen) Mythoses’s

or

I used to have several (dozen) Mythos’s

Not correct. An apostrophe indicates the possessive, not the plural. Unless you are a greengrocer. :-)

dfk41

DavecUK Nope, I want the official plural of Mythos not grinder!

It is Mythoi

DavecUK

dfk41 Probably the most correct form would be

I used to have several (dozen) Mythoses’s

I used to have several (dozen) Mythos’s

Cuprajake

I saw on Instagram that lance Hendrik has a philos now, so will be destroy it or will he be nice, I mean it’s close to the zerno in price, size and burr and augre

Adrianmsmith

DavecUK

Its a mythstory 😎

dfk41

DavecUK

https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref/9780199891573.001.0001/acref-9780199891573-e-4590#:\~:text=mythos%20noun%20plural%20mythoi&text=1%20M18%20A%20traditional%20story,%3B%20a%20body%20of%20…

DavecUK

dfk41 Only one problem, Mythos is a proper noun.

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