Evening looks like the Philios is out in the wild (well to someone on youtube !) Looking forward to the review https://youtube.com/shorts/a0Upq7N2v0E?si=O01ykOp7RBmrD5ff

Excitement builds!! Looking at the architecture it looks like someone in the UK too! I have absolutely zero interest in what the influencers think of this one, it’s a day one purchase for me.

@"HarveyMushman"#p60274 yes he is defo in the Uk - i do like his videos! I have not ordered the gbw allground - kinda waiting to see what the philos is like.. tbh nothing wrong with my current allground….. Still cannot see a price officially on the mazzer site - nor of they will have a reseller in the UK rather than a import from Venice.

I might’ve imagined this but I think @"DavecUK"#1 suggested Mazzer will retail this themselves and aim for a sub £1k price point (possibly for early adopters, with a later price rise). I’ve been waiting years for a single-dose, multi-method grinder from a heritage manufacturer that I like the design of. The latter two usually being the reason for me not buying anything yet. Tbh, even if it’s not perfect it’ll be an upgrade on my current setup and like the LM, just nice to own and use.

Looks great. I think I’ve read somewhere it’s between 900-100 euros.

@"Emc2"#p60303 I wish it was a 100 euros 😂

Quick snap from youtube as he has it on the shelf - and gives some nice size comparisons [URL=https://i.imgur.com/c1yDEj3.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/c1yDEj3.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Rumours on HB, so take this with a pinch of salt, are that the Philos has been delayed. Wouldn’t surprise me given the impact global conflicts on supply chains.

Yeah I saw that. Though made me laugh that places took deposits and then refunded especially as I thought that mazzer were selling them direct to start with… but theres no info in the mazzer site either. Just waiting to see the review tbh - anyhow my blind shaker is about to arrive - so something else to play with 😂

Yeah the retailers I've spoken to in the UK said they had no plans to stock it. Looks like it will indeed be Mazzer direct. I can see the reviews being disappointing. There's no shortage of low priced 64mm flats and people who don't care about build quality, place of build and manufacturer heritage are going to say it's overpriced and find plenty of flaws I'm sure. It's an interesting price point because you can get capable single dosers for half the price or less, and it's obviously not going to compete with the top-end grinders like Kafateks etc. I think the only way this will sell well in the current market is if influencers really get behind it. Then again, I don't think Mazzer necessarily need it to sell massively well as the home market still isn't their bread and butter. I'm excited for it and have said before, will be buying it regardless but I don't expect it to be a flawless grinder.

depends really, the build should be better than that of the df and time mores, you would think, but its a saturated market there has been a zerno fs and a kafatec and weber eg1 all around £1500 on the old forum

Mazzer Philos

HarveyMushman

Jason1wood Contemplating going down the Philos route as moving in with g/f and she hates the size of the old Mythos with the (fishtank) hopper on.

I’m a big Mythos fan too but don’t currently have one for similar reasons.

I’m sure you’re aware but the Philos is a single dose grinder so will be a fairly different workflow to the Mythos. I too ground on-demand prior to the Philos and haven’t had any issues unless making 4 or 5 coffees back to back which is rare and even then you can pre-dose some jars or something to make it quicker.

Personally I find the Philos doesn’t quite have the clarity of the Mythos burrs (somewhat expected given the size difference) but the i200 burrs are brilliant and still very capable.

Note that it’s also quite a big grinder by typical single dosing standards and whilst not as tall as a Mythos, it’s still pretty massive compared to others.

Jason1wood

HarveyMushman good write up. Will be wanting to go single dosing as partner has decaf. So on demand will be a big miss. Love everything about the Mythos, except looks.

Jason1wood

dfk41 emailed pal 👍🏻

HarveyMushman

Jason1wood

Yeah it’s great switching coffees. I do a couple of pour over grinds in the morning, a few espressos and a decaf in the evening. Switches between them flawlessly.

DavecUK

HarveyMushman just elsewhere people are apparently really enjoying criticising it.

I suspect it’s because it was over hyped…people were expecting a 1700 grinder for 1000 or whatever the price was and in fact, the competition is really strong way below the “special sale” price point. I feel sure Mazzer will have to maintain that price and will never be able to raise it.

I have used one, seen one, taken one apart…I’m not a hater and it’s just a reasonable 64mm grinder, but nothing super special, hence my lack of interest in reviewing one, even though it was offered.

HarveyMushman

DavecUK I have used one, seen one, taken one apart…I’m not a hater and it’s just a reasonable 64mm grinder, but nothing super special, hence my lack of interest in reviewing one, even though it was offered.

Fair comment! I’d agree it’s not ‘super special’. I suppose people were expecting some game changing grinder which it isn’t.

I do think the i200 burrs are very very good at grinding a broad range of coffee, and am a fan of the ‘knocker’ helping clear the grind path between brew methods but it’s not anything revolutionary.

Jason1wood

DavecUK going from a Mythos on demand, which I love, to a single what would you suggest.

Do love everything about the Mythos but girlfriend hates the size of it with the 3kg hopper and she drinks decaff so would need a single dose that would keep us both happy

DavecUK

Jason1wood going from a Mythos on demand, which I love, to a single what would you suggest.

It’s tricky, there are often stonking used deals on here…especially from people who can’t stop buying grinders!

Adrianmsmith

@Jason1wood Are you in the UK.

@dfk41 has recently recommended i sell the Philos now i have the Kafatek 🫣🤭. I dont have space for all mine and the Philos may be top of the list. 189 and 200 burrs. Obviously I will post a real advert in our classified thread once i 100% agree with David 🤭.

You can read many comments above about how good it is .

Mine had the official Mazzer mod to stop it creeping when using it stepless. See my comment way above about the issue. I have the prototype and production version!!

I never went back to stepped even prior to mazzer delivering the mod kit.

If anyone is interested i can post the link to the creep prior to the mod.

I wonder if anyone has a full list if what they have added since v 1.0.0 . Anti xreep. Screws for the face plate? Any others…..

i may now be about to shoot myself in the foot as im always honest even if i take the piss a lot. The Only Reason i will be selling the Philos over the Duo is the one that stays will be for my wifes Decaf only. Well, not by a large margin, but, as i said above, I may be selling the Philos .

i Have not yet tried the 200 burrs for decaf though…..

HarveyMushman

Adrianmsmith @dfk41 has recently recommended i sell the Philos

Ah I didn’t realise @dfk41 had one! He kept that quiet!

Jason1wood

Adrianmsmith not in a position to purchase straight away. Would only want the non 200 burrs.

What sort of price you looking at?

Adrianmsmith

HarveyMushman

He doesn’t!!

Adrianmsmith

DavecUK

There are worse things to be spending money on 🤪😎

The only one i regret buying so far (disregarding the sage smart grinder poo) was the DF83ii which, calling it pants was derogatory to said pants!!

Jason1wood

Adrianmsmith was looking at that one also 😳

Adrianmsmith

Jason1wood

The df83?? Im told the v is much better but ive lost all interest in df after that episode of my grinding life!!

Due to a quirk of buying prior to bella barista pulling the plug on being able to buy direct at least financially it was a good buy and the only thing ive not lost money on, even though the buyer also saved a wad !!!

Adrianmsmith

Jason1wood will keep you posted once i make a final decision on that….

Jason1wood

Adrianmsmith I’m Newcastle.

Regarding your Philos.

Can’t keep up with this forum, haha been away a couple of years and was previously on CFUK until @dfk41 told me to head here

Cuprajake

Not really read the thread, but I did wonder what costs would be cut to get a grinder the right side of a grand.

Double sided tape isn’t the best, should of used a magnet 😂

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