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HarveyMushman

Thr decent has such unrivalled capabilities for the tinkerer that it is in a class of its own but it looks and feels and sounds to me ike a PC with a touchscreen and a 1980s era dot matrix printer that has been modified to make coffee. To me, it just doesn’t offer what an ideal coffee making experience ought to be like. So while I respect and recognise what it can do and think that it will suit many people out there, it’s not for me and a spring lever is what moves me a lot more. Perhaps one day I will buy a strietman to see if the direct lever also appeals to me.

dfk41

Every product contains a substantial mark up and that’s why the seller is making and selling the product after all. They have to pay their overheads and make it worth their while in terms of profit. Now if their price is higher thna what the market is prepared to pay for it, then they would have to recalibrate. Otherwise if there are enough customers who still buy the product at that price then it’s the right price. So it seems to me decent are perfectly entitled to do what they r doing and they seem to have a more than healthy customer base.

While I am not in its target market, I am glad that a product like the decent exists and it makes the overall coffee industry better for everybody else including the customers.

Jason1wood I’d stick with your original choice, especially if you’re into traditional espresso. At the risk of controversy, the way the DE1 extracts (partly due to its slow fill rate) can make most shots fairly average in flavor profile.

That’s partly the reason I didn’t list it here: I’d rather it goes to someone who enjoys messing around with the machine, or hasn’t yet formed an opinion of what they want. It’s good for experimenting and building up some knowledge of shot styles, and their impact. Ultimately, my take is that it’s very much a third-wave machine. And even in that arena, I can pull better shots (for my tastes) consistently, manually.

Cuprajake

@Raja123

I am not sure Raja You can really compare the two in the way that you do and especially using it to try to give advice to someone who is looking to purchase a new machine.

Doesn’t take a lot of reading to work out, I am one of the number one fans of ACS and due to a different user experience I also favour ACS more than Jake 🤐🥰🤪 currently .

BUT

As I like all things, electrical and mechanical I cannot pretend the decent does not also intrigue me and if my wife had a slightly different view of the decent I would have both by now, especially considering the 20% off they currently have on display models!!

@Jason1wood

As for your wife using it, I do not understand why she would not.

Do not get confused by the comments above by Raj about the Strietman as this is about as similar to an EVO 2 as the decent is!

Yes it is a lever but also Ferrari dino and ford escot are both cars

No, I am not about to pull down the Strietman If I had a spare room and the money. I would love to have a play with one but if you are looking for one from home the Evo 2 is far simpler to use and gives very good consistent results and I do not understand why people think there is an issue for the wife using it.

My wife originally would not use it and everyone who sees it says how complicated it “looks” but once they actually try it they agree it is not complicated and wonder what the fuss was all about.

Adrianmsmith I understand that. Im just trying to save myself the typing of the comparison points (it boils down to how the shots taste and what the preferences are). I know how to adjust things to make things relevant for a comparison (my line of work is in the field of technical analysis). What I am mindful of is that people need to go on their own journey and work things out for themselves.

I have no vested interest in the outcome (hence my advice not to worry too much about the parameters of the Decent vs the overall max quality of the shots it produces, even though Im selling one!). Just sharing what I found and some of why Im moving the machine on.