portafilter that’s very good information, thank you.

This sentence from the V2 manual “*The above features have been progressively introduced in MaraX V1 starting from April 2021” makes me wonder that since the OPV redirection is on some non-black-logo MaraX, maybe there might be some non-black-logo MaraX with the new Xmode!?

If it’s the case and if anyone finds a way to identify which ones have the new Xmode in the red logo MaraX, I’ll be extremely interested since I’ve been told the black logo may not be available before late 2022 in Canada. The person may wrongly have assumed that it also meant the no Xmode on MaraX with the red logo.

Or maybe I’m too optimistic! :D

    portafilter

    Now that think about it, I tried a machine that had all the general features change listed in the PDF (copied below) except the black logo:

    General features*

    • Hot water and steam taps with LELIT logo embossed and visible from above. They are longer than the former ones, therefore the wands will not touch the body of the machine, preventing any possible scratch.

    • IMS filters made of 304 stainless steel: 1 dose (9-11 g), 2 doses (16-18 g), 2 doses PLUS (18-21 g), blind.

    • Water tank with LELIT logo embossed.

    • The OPV drain system discharges the water back into the water tank instead of the drip tray. In this way, the user needs to empty it less often and the water consumption is halved.

    • New silk-screened logo displayed on the front to give the machine a new minimalist look, in line with the company’s rebranding.

    The Xmode change is not listed as a feature but only explained later on.

    @DavecUK, or anyone else who may know, except the serial number and the black logo, are you aware of a way to verify if a machine has the XmodeCoffee change?

    They mention in the manual that the power led would blink at startup: was the previous version doing that too?

        No, the V1 had a different way of confirming the coffee mode. Mauro has a youtube video about it, the two lights for temperature and water would stay on for 5 seconds (or something like that).

        Snooze @DavecUK, or anyone else who may know, except the serial number and the black logo, are you aware of a way to verify if a machine has the XmodeCoffee change?

        I would say the best way is to switch in away from 1 to 0 on the right hand switch under the tray and see if the steam goes up and stays there…then you know it’s the old software and is working as an HX machine. When I get the stuff I shall put a video up before I change out the Gicar box

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          Anyone know what “Hot water and steam taps with LELIT logo embossed and visible from above. They are longer than the former ones, therefore the wands will not touch the body of the machine, preventing any possible scratch.” actually means?

          The wands on my Oct-2020 machine have an engraved (as opposed to embossed) Lelit logo on top, and the elbow of the wands will not touch the front of the machine, but you can articulate the arm in such a way so that the tips of the wands could touch the sides of the case. Do these new wands completely eliminate the wands from touching any portion of the case?

          authorized reseller in my country sent me this video
          to explain the software update in v2. I’m planning to buy marax, but still not decided yet between marax and bezzera bz10

          6 days later

          If anyone receives confirmation of when / who will have this machine in the US with the revised software, please share. Thanks.

          4 days later

          I talked to Jim at 1st-line.com and he wasn’t even aware of the changes/new software for the MaraX. He said it could be a few months before it hits the US market. His machines right now have the upgraded OPV drain but nothing else.

          DavecUK are the changes for the Xmode only a Gicar software change with the same Gicar or there is some hardware that need to be changed/added too?

          Thanks!!

              Snooze are the changes for the Xmode only a Gicar software change with the same Gicar or there is some hardware that need to be changed/added too?

              Just a Gicar box change. I have a replacement box for mine and will be wiring it in soon…I’ll make a video.

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                  DavecUK ok great. Is it the same Gicar but running a different software?

                  I’m asking since the distributor said they could reprogram a V1 with the new software.. but they’ve had incorrect information previously so I doubt that their information is reliable.

                    A Gicar box can be programmed using the correct procedure, and although I know exactly how, I don’t have the programming kit to do it…or I might not. The one thing I know for sure, Lelit don’t give any Retailers the ability to reprogram anything.

                    I would imagine the Retailer would simply replace the Gicar Box and perhaps that what they mean….maby they assume if they send the old box back to Lelit they will be credited for a replacement. I have no idea. Not something I get into.

                    My view is if you already have a MaraX, wait till the Gicar box fails, then replace it with the new box/software. You can be assured that such an approach will result in your Gicar box never failing (that’s how it works). Or bite the bullet, get a new box and keep the old one as a spare. The MaraX already works pretty good…this is just fine-tuning, and it does remove the pure HX function (which I never used but YMMV)

                    I also have no idea of the Retail cost of a MaraX Gicar box with the new software…or even if retailers have them yet.

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                      DavecUK ok thanks a lot again Dave. I’ll dig a bit more on that with the retailer.

                      As usual, your help is of extremely useful and valuable. I like this forum!

                        I reached out to Chris’ Coffee and they claim to have had the V2 for months. Red logo. I’m not convinced. I’ve also reached out to Lelit to see what they say about availability in the US. The “single boiler espresso” and switchable steam functionality is exactly what I want. I only wish it were fully polished.

                          UPDATE: Cristina at Lelit responded to a message I sent over the weekend and says 1st Line will have the Mara X V2 “shortly”. Jim at 1st Line was copied on the message and said to check the website in 4-6 weeks for updates. So, it sounds like Jim at 1st Line is now in the loop on the updated version - if he wasn’t already.

                          15 days later

                          Does anybody here have this new V2 gicar besides me?

                          Wanted to confirm if when moving the temp preset switch from 0-1-2 position, the temp LED indicator blinks or not.
                          With the V1 Gicar, every change of temperature preset caused the temp LED to blink, but on the V2 it does not. Weird.

                          @DavecUK Have you had to chance to wire up yours?