https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tn84Gp_xcQ Any thoughts? How would you use the new function? @"DavecUK"#1 is there any way you could test the new V3 of the Bianca?

Thats a very good feature to add, wonder if rrp will be effected.

@"RobertRo101"#p9667 I've been using the V3 for almost a year now…low flow works well. Especially good if you don't want to move the paddle..It was one of my favourite new things on Bianca. For the upgrade you would need a new LCC, some wiring and the additional solenoid with a slight plumbing change.

@"DavecUK"#p9673 I was certain that you would have had this verision already:) can you share any info if you are going to update the Bianca review on your website or post a video about some testing with the new future? Are there any more updates we can expect?

> @"RobertRo101"#p9674 update the Bianca review on your website or post a video about some testing with the new future? Are there any more updates we can expect? The Bianca Review is a version 1, so quite old now. I may well update it…essentially the machine is unchanged except for the addition of the new features. I may have a few extra features the production version doesn't have, and my solenoid is slightly different (they are sending me a replacement, if I get any problems with mine)… I was originally sent it to try it and see if there were any problems…which there were not…it wall worked very well. I don't think I have a manual, but I will download the production manual as my version a year ago has something else I won't mention, until I find out if it was in the production version. I suspect my software might not be exactly the same version, but again until you guys by one and if the software version is on the back of the LCC I won't know…plus mine could still have been a reflashed LCC. I have to be very careful when commenting on pre production stuff so early in the chain. Really like the version 3 though, as compared to the version 1, lots of features were new….and I do need to update my version 1 to a version 2.

This is why, despite my recent challenges, I really love the Bianca (and Lelit). I have been toying with updating to LCC 2. I may hang fire and update to LCC v3 though, with my new found boldness for tinkering with the machine 😉

The Low flow used in conjunction with PI seems to be a good combination. Dave, have you been using just the low flow or do you always use the PI with it ?

Really great feature. It basically mirrors the profile I use 99% of the time so it’s handy to be able to automate it. It’s also really awesome to see Lelit iterating on what is already a fantastic machine. It’s impressive how quickly the group head pressure changes when the low flow kicks in.

this is awesome. i'll get an upgrade kit when its available.

Its a good option, not sure id rip my machine apart for it, but its a good out the box incentive to buy the v3 over a competitor

there will hopefully be some other upgrades that the new LCC bring that are worthwhile.

Lelit Bianca V3

MediumRoastSteam

delta76 @DavecUK himself said so (his best espressos are from Evo Leva)

Taste is subjective - you may or may not like what Dave likes. If you like a lever profile shot, as in, in the case of the V lever, a 11 bar shot going down to 7, then you may enjoy it.

Some people like less pressure, some people prefer a “less traditional” style, with longer ratios, lighter roasts and lower pressure.

The Evo does produce a good cup of coffee - but other machines do too. It all depends what you like.

delta76

MediumRoastSteam that is basically what I said. Levers make different espresso than pump machines and in blind test more people tend to prefer the former.

MediumRoastSteam

delta76 - I understand what you said. What I’m saying is that, for taste, it can be disappointing to be guided by the common opinion, as your own opinion might be different from the common opinion, if that makes sense.

Also, don’t forget there’s been a recent hype around lever machines. Don’t get me wrong, I think they are cool, easy to maintain and overall quieter - but they are not all the same. The V Evo and the Nurri are in the lead as they have married technology and tradition very well.

delta76

MediumRoastSteam I think they are cool too. If I am rich enough to not have to care about cost of living, I would probably open a cafe with lever machines. Good way to become a millionaire if you are already a multi-millionaire.

But back to Lelit Bianca - I have been sending people from facebook groups to this forum. Hopefully Dave and other owners here will be able to help them.

delta76

Finally pulled the trigger, I decided to buy a demo Bianca v3 with “some scratches” with €400 off (yeah I’m cheap), full 2 years warranty. Hopefully it will arrive before my birthday!

Cuprajake

that will do

delta76

Cuprajake have you changed the shower screen of your Bianca? If yes any benefit you can see? I don’t care about better extraction etc., but maybe cleaner/easier to clean?

Cuprajake

nah, left it stock

giampiero

Cuprajake in your youtube video “Carlos Alfredo light roast espresso” i noticed the group head drain section leaking during the shot.

delta76

giampiero no way an expert but isn’t that normal?

Cuprajake

its always done that, i thought they all did

giampiero

Cuprajake if you pass the max pressure that the drain valve spring can support, this happen, but usually a drain valve spring should keep closed the drain valve until around 12 bars, and in the video of the portakeeper is visible the group head gauge needle seems in a high pressure value.

Obviously not a problem of the machine.

delta76

Another one that does Lelit Bianca Espresso Machine - Pulling a Shot - YouTube

MediumRoastSteam

delta76 Another one that does Lelit Bianca Espresso Machine - Pulling a Shot - YouTube

I love the contradiction… “That’s looking pretty good… That’s not what I wanna see, at all”. 🤣

Finest example of youtube trash.

Cuprajake

@DavecUK

DavecUK

Cuprajake There is the odd drop, but very little, it will have no effect on the shot. What pressure were you using?

Also worth remembering that the preinfusion valve is designed to open at 4 bar, sure they put a stronger spring in, but:

the valve never needed to seal at up to 12.5 bar like the vent valve
I doubt they used a 13 bar spring
there could be crud on the valve seat.

Cuprajake

MediumRoastSteam thats the guy who rips the niche products in comments sections everytime he has chance, but then he’s a seller soooooo

delta76

MediumRoastSteam I don’t even care what is said. Just remember I’ve seen the drops and look it up :)

MediumRoastSteam

DavecUK Also worth remembering that the preinfusion valve is designed to open at 4 bar, sure they put a stronger spring in, but:

I thought the Bianca had that part of the group completely removed? Maybe I’m wrong.

delta76

MediumRoastSteam not removed but I think they put a stronger spring which essentially disable the water line pressure pre infusion? the valve opens at 2.5 bar with the standard e61 and bianca has like 4 bar spring.

MediumRoastSteam

delta76 - I looked at diagrams. I stand corrected. For whichever reason I thought on the Bianca the chamber wasn’t there at all. My bad!

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