Just downloaded footage from my secret webcam in the kitchen of @"DavecUK"#1 only to discover that he's been holding out on us! Cmon Dave, spill the beans (not the coffee ones) on this geourgeous looking leva. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/Y7e0uuz.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Y7e0uuz.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

For this machine it's one of the first made, and I am doing an Engineering review on it for Antonio (the creator) as a favour, so I can't really comment at this stage. But I can post photos….and say that the Paddle levers on this are very basic beta ones….so that area is still in the design melting pot.

needs to be 50mm shorter for a uk work top haha i believe this is a commercial focsed machine?

I love the look of these sorts of lever machines, but they really need to at least try to make them a bit more compact in design. They're either lacking in that area of expertise or they don't care… A more compact design would look like a much better centre piece in a kitchen (and take less space in a commercial setting), rather than protruding till the near edge. The size distracts from the elegance of it.

Certainly a looker. I'm sure we will all look forward to your thoughts when you are able to comment.

@"Cuprajake"#p10000 no it's for the home market

@"Cuprajake"#p10000 from the nurri website https://www.nurri.coffee/portfolio-item/nurri-leva-sa-machine/ L-TYPE LEVA S.A. is a professional machine. Yes. But it is designed for those who want to enjoy quality espresso at home, making it with the same passion and competence of a professional bartender.

@"tompoland"#p10004 I like how they stuck Patent Pending on everything 🤣 a bit unprofessional.

@"Sham"#p10001 I agree when it comes to similar sized Levers that require external plumbing or flojet type arrangement. But the Nurri is dual boiler and plumbing is optional. Still, I agree that it's a lot for a normal kitchen. I like the footprint on the Decent for example.

Powder coated version. Wow. [URL=https://i.imgur.com/7uFzqtw.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/7uFzqtw.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

@"tompoland"#p10007 In that case they should have either decreased tank sizes and utilised quicker water heating technology (I'm sure there's loads of options from other industry's) or started with a more wide design but I guess that would've cost too much R&D time. One way to think of it is that they won't lose customers if its small, but they will lose customers if its too big. It does look pretty nice though.

Nurri Leva S.A.

MediumRoastSteam

cyclezib but how long does it take for the cups on the cup rack to warm up?

I’m intrigued. Why would this be beneficial? Energy should be used to heat the water in the boilers, or the group, not the cups in the cup warmer. If manufacturers wanted the cups to be warm as a feature, then they would not bother insulating the boilers. Heating the cups is only a by-product of the heat unfortunately being “wasted”.

A better way of warming up cups quickly and more efficiently is by pouring a bit of hot water (from a kettle) and swirling it around.

I don’t have the Nurri or the Evo, but I don’t think the cup will be warm enough or hot, at all, in 15 minutes on the cup tray.

CoyoteOldMan

MediumRoastSteam Can confirm for the Evo. When the machine is hot, the cups are just about ‘not cold’. They never really get hot.

simonko

MediumRoastSteam A better way of warming up cups quickly and more efficiently is by pouring a bit of hot water (from a kettle) and swirling it around.

Any negative with taking it from the hot water tap rather than a kettle? I was thinking when the Nurri arrives that would be my goto way to keep the water cycling through in the steam boiler.

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam If manufacturers wanted the cups to be warm as a feature, then they would not bother insulating the boilers. Heating the cups is only a by-product of the heat unfortunately being “wasted”.

I’m not sure the boilers are insulated, but a current owner can confirm I guess.

CoyoteOldMan

simonko Any negative with taking it from the hot water tap rather than a kettle?

Depending on how many cups you need to heat, it may end up being more expensive than a kettle (in water filtering).

MediumRoastSteam

DavecUK - well, if the boilers are not insulated, then it’s a feature. 😉

chlorox

DavecUK

I saw that the steam boiler was insulated. I did not recall glimpsing if the brew boiler is similarly insulated but I am sure that if one is insulated then both would be as it wouldn’t make any sense otherwise.

tompoland

DavecUK appear to be insulated. Here’s a side shot.

chlorox

LMSC

I think it ties in completely with the entire design concept of the vostok or vesuvius as opposed to that for the nurri. The former cater and appeal more to people who like to tinker and fiddle and do their own maintenance. The latter is targeted at people who want to achieve the same in cup results but who want the user experience to be a more curated one that is maximised on pleasing their senses - kind of like the difference between the people who preferred the apple personal computers and those who preferred IBM and the Microsoft os computers from an earlier age. So nurri probably emphasised more on ease of use to the point where it hardly needs to be explained to the user and so they limited the interface on what the user could choose to do

chlorox

cyclezib

I dont rely on the machine tray to wam my cups - I fill a cup with hot water from the machine just before using it to warm it up. I saw that the boiler is insulated and so I don’t think the tray wil get sufficiently warm enough like the way my old izzo got so warm that it heated up a dozen cups and saucers without difficulty. But this is good for the nurri because it means there is a minimum of wasted heat and thus much less wasted electricity.

In any event even the warmest machine tray may not be warm enough by Neopolitan standards. I recall watching a video that showed cups being left in a hot water bath in a naples espresso bar before they were used - which meant that the cups may have been as hot or hotter than the extracted coffee!

The dealer installed it for me at my kitchen I didn’t really bother to read rhe manual much at all but got some basic directions from the dealer and I was off using it. For me, that was part of the appeal - I could leave all the technical installation stuff to the dealer

simonko

I prefered the hot water tap even over the Izzo’s cup warmer sitting on a 5L boilder radiating all day. (especially after mum visited, stacked cups on it and next time I opened the cupboard door, knocked them into a million pieces).

Never used the steam jet in the cup tray area either. Too slow compared to boiling water.

tompoland

simonko Never used the steam jet in the cup tray area either.

I loved that feature. Very clever. Never used it of course, other than to show off with visitors 😀

tompoland

cyclezib unpacking and setting up for first pour was a doddle. Really, other than putting the portafilter in and screwing on the lever handle, it was pretty much plug n play. The manual is adequate to the point of being helpful but not comprehensive by any means.

Re cups, they seem ready to use when the boiler is up to temp.

chlorox

tompoland

That’s the whole thing about the L type - it is so nice and easy to use and every time u look at it, instant dopamine shot as its really easy on the eyes too! I should suggest the L stand for La Dolce Vita inaddition to Leva :)

simonko

tompoland Haha - must admit I actually forgot it about until this topic came up here. All those visitors I could have impressed.

chlorox

simonko

What steam jet in cup tray feature is that? I wasn’t aware there was such an abiltiy

simonko

chlorox - like an upward facing steam wand.

chlorox

Interesting…I don’t think my old izzo pompei had such a feature as I have never seen such an upward pointing steam pipe under the tray when I owned it.

CoyoteOldMan

chlorox I don’t think my old izzo pompei had such a feature

Which is a bit of a shame, considering the name. 😁

MediumRoastSteam

CoyoteOldMan considering the name

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

chlorox

CoyoteOldMan

That is an apt point! LOL In fsxt I read somewhere the izzo factory was very near the slopes of the volcano…

CoyoteOldMan

chlorox That’s what their website says too. Nowadays they are in Anagni, a good 100 miles away!

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