The Eureka Single Dose is now out in the wild. Is anyone thinking of buying one?

We know @"DavecUK"#1 had this for a while and did a review for them. I’m not sure , if he is allowed to post his comments.

@"LMSC"#p933 I had a prototype with smaller burrs, I made some recommendations. What size burrs does the production version have and how much does it cost?

@"DavecUK"#p943 Thx Dave! 65 mm diamond costing £499 https://static.bellabarista.co.uk/pdf/Eureka-Mignon-Single-Dose-Niche-Zero-DF-64.pdf

That document above is crazy marketing nonsense. I vote we remove from here as it's entirely bias and misleading. @"LMSC"#p944 ^^^.

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p946 I am not a marketing agent! 😂 That’s what I find on their site. Some one will have to prove one way or other. I am indifferent between keeping that link or removing it. Dave and mods may decide.

When you read that doc (not sure if you have) you will see what I'm talking about. The claims they (Eureka) are making are baseless and without any substance what so ever. (rant over) 🤣

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p952 hi, I saw that document before, yes it is purely marketing, composed by one ‘eureka’ company it looks like! When I was toying with the idea of purchasing the niche zero I stumbled across lots of stuff online and that was one of them, I didn’t pay much attention after first glance tbh. I don’t believe it would be helpful to someone considering the comparisons either if they were looking for meaningful info

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p952 I did, tbh. We always find most of the manufactures’ claims are excessive, don’t we? I am looking forward to a review and first impressions, though.

Mine is being delivered later today. I’ll give my thoughts. I had a Niche in the past but didn’t get on with the flavours in comparison to my Atom 75.

@"cengland117"#p963 - Oh, exciting! Let us know how it compares to the Niche, not only in terms of flavorous but also usability. Looking forward to reading it!

Eureka Single dose, Niche, Solo

MediumRoastSteam

@Frothbewithyou - how dare you not say the Niche isn’t the best and only grinder that someone should ever buy? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I agree with you. You make very interesting points. For me, there were a few factors on why I bought the Niche back in 2018:

single dose;
Affordable;
Consistent;
Easy to use;
It was demonstrated snd scrutinised before it’s launch.

Fast forward almost 4 years, and in my opinion there aren’t many grinders which tick those boxes. The Solo came close, and it’s a very good price. If I was to buy a flat burr grinder, I would actually pick the Solo over the Eureka Oro single dose.

Unfortunately, the £500-£900 single dosing grinder market hasn’t been explored yet. I do hope they start soon, but not with some crazy nonsense of a modified Ex-commercial and then claim it’s been designed from the ground up. For me, innovation is key. Eureka has failed miserably on that aspect.

Before the Niche, I had a Kinu M68. Single dose manual grinder. Totally innovative design. Very easy to take apart and clean. But to me, static was a very big issue.

Frothbewithyou

MediumRoastSteam I think it’s always good to have perspective and it’s hard because most people will only have the luxury of owning one premium grinder.

I can see growth in this area in particular in the last 2 years when I took it up a notch to being something I’d class as my ‘hobby’.

Love the Kinu and I also like the design (emphasis on that) of the Chestnut X. I think between £300-£800 there is definitely space for a few more competitors.

I have a question for all Niche owners if you could take one feature from another grinder what would it be and why? Would you for instance want anything fro the Oro or Solo? (Trying to not derail too much). Or maybe another grinder, if you could release a Niche Zero 2nd Edition what would you change?

PortafilterProcrastinator

Frothbewithyou

I’ve had my Niche about a year and the two things I’d change: Not having to lift the lid the adjust the grind and … ‘designed’ bellows.

The second one will probably elicit all sorts of reactions, but I think they’d help. The niche is great for switching grind size. I go from c.83 for pourover to c.35 for Moka Pot (or vice versa) very regularly. It works, it works really really well. But I’d like to be more thorough. To force more out.

MediumRoastSteam

Frothbewithyou if you could release a Niche Zero 2nd Edition what would you change?

I think most of Niche owners, who experienced the grinder for a while, would like to see a flat burr option. As for changes in the current model, I’m not sure. It works for me very well. If I were to suggest something, maybe a portafilter holder option. I don’t use the cup at all.

Beverast

Frothbewithyou Two things I would change on the Niche Zero. First, I would have a separate power switch to turn it on/off. Secondly, an easier way to pull out the main cable. Since I got my Niche I still have not managed to fully pull out the main cable. I’m somewhat heavy handed, and knowing my luck would probably break or mess something up 😁

Other than that, I’m really happy with the performance of the Niche. Said it before but I would not change it for anything else at this stage.

Cuprajake

No i probably didnt give it a fair chance tbh,

Yeah there was a hell of a lot of chaff, and for me inconsistency as twice i got beans stuck under the nfc disc thing. Something ive never seen mentioned

And without the disc it popcorned like crazy. Wether that made a difference ill never know.

Just wasnt for me in the end.

Agree though if you want to single dose your limited to only a couple of options.

-Mac

MediumRoastSteam

Surely 2 future Niches, one with 83mm flat burr and one with 83mm conical burr, sub-£1000 would just own the sub 3K market?

CafeNoir

100% agree, a Niche Flat would be worth a serious look if it measured up.
Bellows….hmm…missing the whole point of the Niche unless it’s just your OCD getting out of hand, IMHO

MediumRoastSteam

Beverast Secondly, an easier way to pull out the main cable

Just pull it until it doesn’t come out any longer, gently. It’s simply stored inside the base, without any fancy mechanisms. In fact, if you remove the single screw which holds the wooden lid to the base (underneath the cup tray) you’ll see it there, together with two spare springs. 😊

LMSC

Three things :

A beefy and more elegant finish
Flat and conical versions sporting >= 83 mm
Swap flat for conical and vice-versa

I wonder how a combo would work though !

Beverast

MediumRoastSteam Fiddled about with it this morning and managed to pull it out 😁

Frothbewithyou

All great responses so far everyone, its nice to see such a large consumer base be struggling to find ‘improvements’ :D

Nightrider_1uk

I would echo the separate on off switch and the ability to w=swap between the conical and flat burrs

PortafilterProcrastinator

Nightrider_1uk That would be holy grail wouldn’t it? One grinder that could be conical OR flat?? (I hesitate to say one grinder to rule them all, but I can’t help myself)

Would this be possible, given how different conical and flat burrs are?

SouthMark45

Review just put up on YouTube from Kyle Rowsell comparing both of the Grinders.

Cuprajake

was one a from brian quan too, on the solo and the niche

Cuprajake

just cringed my way through the review on 1.5 speed. the eureka doesnt look the best does it

BBritton

PortafilterProcrastinator Nightrider_1uk That would be holy grail wouldn’t it? One grinder that could be conical OR flat?? (I hesitate to say one grinder to rule them all, but I can’t help myself)

Would this be possible, given how different conical and flat burrs are?

Wouldn’t that essentially be the Hedone Honne or Versalab M4 with both conical and flat? I must say the Hedone Honne seems very interesting to me, but don’t see too many reviews lately about it. Work flow seems one of the best also.

SouthMark45

Yeah I watched the review and the mess it made and the modifications he was making was enough for me to switch off

Waitforme

I wouldn’t be buying the Eureka after watching that review.

I know zero about grinder design but if I find it wanting that a company of this size puts out a grinder with a puffer to blow the grinds out - and they still get caught by the anti clumping device.

Now that Niche is manufactured in China, I wonder how long it’ll be before I get an email from Aliexpress offering me the chance to buy a Neesh for a couple of hundred 🤔

DavecUK

Waitforme Now that Niche is manufactured in China, I wonder how long it’ll be before I get an email from Aliexpress offering me the chance to buy a Neesh for a couple of hundred 🤔

Never

Cuprajake

Hasnt the niche always been made in china?

The eureka is a lazy way of making a single dose grinder

The took there normal grinder design, angled it. You can see they couldn’t even be bothered to make a fresh front plate

Then theh added a blow up hopper.

The adjustment on the eureka isnt amazong either just a threaded rod

MediumRoastSteam

Cuprajake Hasnt the niche always been made in china?

Nope. The earlier ones were made in the UK, potentially assembled by Martin and James. Mine is one of them. Obviously demand grew exponentially, so they needed to produce the grinder into a much bigger scale.

Cuprajake

MediumRoastSteam

yeah but that would of only the first yr or so would it not?

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