The Eureka Single Dose is now out in the wild. Is anyone thinking of buying one?

We know @"DavecUK"#1 had this for a while and did a review for them. I’m not sure , if he is allowed to post his comments.

@"LMSC"#p933 I had a prototype with smaller burrs, I made some recommendations. What size burrs does the production version have and how much does it cost?

@"DavecUK"#p943 Thx Dave! 65 mm diamond costing £499 https://static.bellabarista.co.uk/pdf/Eureka-Mignon-Single-Dose-Niche-Zero-DF-64.pdf

That document above is crazy marketing nonsense. I vote we remove from here as it's entirely bias and misleading. @"LMSC"#p944 ^^^.

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p946 I am not a marketing agent! 😂 That’s what I find on their site. Some one will have to prove one way or other. I am indifferent between keeping that link or removing it. Dave and mods may decide.

When you read that doc (not sure if you have) you will see what I'm talking about. The claims they (Eureka) are making are baseless and without any substance what so ever. (rant over) 🤣

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p952 hi, I saw that document before, yes it is purely marketing, composed by one ‘eureka’ company it looks like! When I was toying with the idea of purchasing the niche zero I stumbled across lots of stuff online and that was one of them, I didn’t pay much attention after first glance tbh. I don’t believe it would be helpful to someone considering the comparisons either if they were looking for meaningful info

@"MediumRoastSteam"#p952 I did, tbh. We always find most of the manufactures’ claims are excessive, don’t we? I am looking forward to a review and first impressions, though.

Mine is being delivered later today. I’ll give my thoughts. I had a Niche in the past but didn’t get on with the flavours in comparison to my Atom 75.

@"cengland117"#p963 - Oh, exciting! Let us know how it compares to the Niche, not only in terms of flavorous but also usability. Looking forward to reading it!

Eureka Single dose, Niche, Solo

MediumRoastSteam

Beverast Secondly, an easier way to pull out the main cable

Just pull it until it doesn’t come out any longer, gently. It’s simply stored inside the base, without any fancy mechanisms. In fact, if you remove the single screw which holds the wooden lid to the base (underneath the cup tray) you’ll see it there, together with two spare springs. 😊

Beverast

MediumRoastSteam Fiddled about with it this morning and managed to pull it out 😁

Frothbewithyou

All great responses so far everyone, its nice to see such a large consumer base be struggling to find ‘improvements’ :D

Nightrider_1uk

I would echo the separate on off switch and the ability to w=swap between the conical and flat burrs

PortafilterProcrastinator

Nightrider_1uk That would be holy grail wouldn’t it? One grinder that could be conical OR flat?? (I hesitate to say one grinder to rule them all, but I can’t help myself)

Would this be possible, given how different conical and flat burrs are?

SouthMark45

Review just put up on YouTube from Kyle Rowsell comparing both of the Grinders.

Cuprajake

was one a from brian quan too, on the solo and the niche

Cuprajake

just cringed my way through the review on 1.5 speed. the eureka doesnt look the best does it

BBritton

PortafilterProcrastinator Nightrider_1uk That would be holy grail wouldn’t it? One grinder that could be conical OR flat?? (I hesitate to say one grinder to rule them all, but I can’t help myself)

Would this be possible, given how different conical and flat burrs are?

Wouldn’t that essentially be the Hedone Honne or Versalab M4 with both conical and flat? I must say the Hedone Honne seems very interesting to me, but don’t see too many reviews lately about it. Work flow seems one of the best also.

SouthMark45

Yeah I watched the review and the mess it made and the modifications he was making was enough for me to switch off

Waitforme

I wouldn’t be buying the Eureka after watching that review.

I know zero about grinder design but if I find it wanting that a company of this size puts out a grinder with a puffer to blow the grinds out - and they still get caught by the anti clumping device.

Now that Niche is manufactured in China, I wonder how long it’ll be before I get an email from Aliexpress offering me the chance to buy a Neesh for a couple of hundred 🤔

DavecUK

Waitforme Now that Niche is manufactured in China, I wonder how long it’ll be before I get an email from Aliexpress offering me the chance to buy a Neesh for a couple of hundred 🤔

Never

Cuprajake

Hasnt the niche always been made in china?

The eureka is a lazy way of making a single dose grinder

The took there normal grinder design, angled it. You can see they couldn’t even be bothered to make a fresh front plate

Then theh added a blow up hopper.

The adjustment on the eureka isnt amazong either just a threaded rod

MediumRoastSteam

Cuprajake Hasnt the niche always been made in china?

Nope. The earlier ones were made in the UK, potentially assembled by Martin and James. Mine is one of them. Obviously demand grew exponentially, so they needed to produce the grinder into a much bigger scale.

Cuprajake

MediumRoastSteam

yeah but that would of only the first yr or so would it not?

MediumRoastSteam

Cuprajake - I’m not sure Jake. I can’t remember exactly when they shifted the whole production and assembly to their own factory in China.

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam I’m not sure Jake. I can’t remember exactly when they shifted the whole production and assembly to their own factory in China.

I think it was 6-9 months, as demand was so high it became difficult to manufacture at their home workshop. The production facilities in China are quite incredible, and he got to know the best places to have things made due to his previous career with Kenwood. If anything, I would imagine the quality/consistency of the Chinese assembly is as good or better. Certain parts are still sourced from all over and shipped to China for production. e,g. Mazzer Burrs etc..

Pompeyexile

Made in China but born in…. Portsmouth. That’s good enough for me…PUP!

Cuprajake

i dont see made in china as a derogatory remark,

it gets used in ice hockey equipment all the time, if its not can/us made then its trashed, im like they can sew just as good in china lol

Pompeyexile

‘Made in China’ is no longer synonymus with poor quality…just cheaper. If they carried on trying to have it made here in the UK, I guess the price would be quite a bit more.

Still it makes me shake my head in disbelief though at how having something made thousands of miles away then transported here and all that costs, is still cheaper than having it made here in the UK. But, then again I suppose very low wages, poor working standards/rules in these other countries are probably the reason. Sadly, it’s the price many in the west are willing to pay for paying less… me included.

Gagaryn

Pompeyexile Labour in China is no longer as cheap as you might imagine. Labour costs in parts of Europe are already comparable and in some sectors cheaper. China’s strength is in having abundant, advanced manufacturing facilities and a skilled workforce who are experienced in setting up production and tooling very quickly. You’ll start to see a lot more Made in Romania and Made In Poland markings on goods in the coming years.

Evergreen88

How much cheaper though? If the competition is producing grinders in the same space at the same price but manufactured in Italy?

I have always been pleased with the fact that coffee machines/grinders/gears are manufactured mostly in Europe.
I understand that a small company has less scaling opportunities but it’s definitely disappointing to see another production moving from the UK/Europe to China. If I were on the market for a single dose grinder I would consider this a big point in favour of Eureka.

MediumRoastSteam

Evergreen88 If I were on the market for a single dose grinder I would consider this a big point in favour of Eureka.

Not me. Personally, I dislike the current implementation of the Eureka - It just doesn’t feels right yet, based on what I see on videos etc.

Now, if there was a similar grinder, which was equally capable and could be compared like for like, then yes, I would consider buying closer to hone, always.

I’d rather buy a product I’d be happy with made away from home than something I wouldn’t enjoy made close by. And, based on what I see so far, the Niche is a far superior product. My opinion, of course.

To put it differently: If you were in the market for a coffee machine and a car, would you buy a Fraccino machine just because they are made in Birmingham, even though they don’t really tick all the boxes for you? Or a Nissan car because they are made in Sunderland even though your eyes were set on a Skoda? (just as an example)

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