Yeh I saw this, I need to re-watch it. He didn’t seem to focus much on espresso or the 078s, and I’m sure he said the 078s realises the full potential of the coffee but then at the end seemed to say it was ok, I was watching whilst distracted though..
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caffeinated-carp exactly my thoughts, i keep my 78s pledge i guess.
Inspector I was hoping it would be more of a glowing recommendation than it was :) I’ve backed the 078s, not really sure what to go for - other options are more expensive (DF83 maybe? Niche Zero?) but I’d rather buy one to last for a while, would rather not sell in a couple of months
caffeinated-carp in the same boat. I think after watching the review it is a good option for the price. He was just very focussed on filter over espresso.
I too would rather spend a little more on something I’ll keep. I’m also pretty sure the Niche after the possible VAT on the Timemore isn’t much more (if at all) in the UK.
I might just bin my 064s pledge and just pickup the solo compact bella are selling for 199
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Niche zero was rated as 60% and the 078S was able to exploit the full potential of the coffee. I’m more interested in how the 078S compares to the Niche Duo. I think he said he prefers flat burrs which could explain why he didn’t prefer Niche zero.
Emc2 he does seem to not like the niche in general. I can’t remember why now
MattH I might just bin my 064s pledge and just pickup the solo compact bella are selling for 199
May be irrelevant but the 064 just sounds very weedy. It sounds like it’s struggling, may well be rubbish and it makes little or no difference to how it grinds but it just sounds a bit…meh
BrewLiam apparently the price you see will be the final price, no import duty etc. even if there was no more than the niche zero is only about £70 more in the UK
caffeinated-carp I can’t remember why now
Most likely because if he says he likes it, he won’t get as many viewers. One of the situations where he made his mind a while back and it’s unlikely he’ll change it now.
Most (maybe all?) of us associate Lance with someone who doesn’t like the Niche, at least not the taste it produces for the coffee he drinks for his own palate - which is no doubt a subjective thing anyway.
I’d be interested to hear what he says about the Duo. I think I already know, bit nonetheless, we shall see when he gets to it.
Well it’s not a 78s we found out in the vid, no one seems to have the official 78s
My bug bear is you can’t compare a conical to flats. It’s not a fair fight. That and he really dislikes the zero. A better option would of been a df64 which is similar.
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Cuprajake My bug bear is you can’t compare a conical to flats
Why not? They both grind coffee for the same method (espresso, as an example). Just because one use flat burrs and the other conicals doesn’t mean it can’t be compared. Can’t you compare a diesel car with a petrol car? Yes you can. In fact, I have compared, and found out that, for me, based on a very unscientific method and brief time I can’t tell the difference. 🤷♂️ (NIche Zero vs Niche Duo).
Well there is that of course.
No, I’m fine with the laid back style. This was the one that tuned me out.
He’s done some helpful stuff for sure. But his methods for arriving at conclusions and therefore recommendations doesn’t have enough robustness for me to have confidence in his findings.
But hey, if people love his stuff, more power to them.
I was after the 078 for pourover duty to pair with my Zero but as It wasn’t available in the UK on Kickstarter I backed the 078s with a view to fitting some turbo burrs later on.
With the only real info available out in the wild being early reviews, it seems that swapping the burrs out could be a right faff & was a hairs breath from cancelling, however Timemore have announced that you can change your 078S pledge to a 078 in the survey that will be sent out at the end of the campaign
https://www.facebook.com/groups/www.timemore.sculptor/permalink/612336527518747/
MediumRoastSteam doesn’t work like that though imo.
Every other grinder he compares them to are flats, that’s all I’m pointing out, the profiles of conical and flats are different and they do taste different to me, I find the zero quite dull, but I wouldn’t use it as a compare to my major as they are totally different.
As for cars petrol for the win anyday 😁
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I think I just dislike the whole bullshittery that seems to be going on atm.
Sadly I’m addicted to forums, learning, YouTube or I’d bin it all off
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I think one of my main concerns may have been answer by Timemore. Having not seen any actual 078s grinders, the reviews suggested the espresso burrs in the 078 had very little espresso range - maybe 0-2 or 3.
Reading this is seems it may be different on the actual 078s grinder. Think I’m going to keep my pledge for it and hope it’s a good bet for the price.
Wonder what happens when you install filter burrs in 78s then, can it grind fine for espresso.