chlorox like a gathering at an acquaintance’s house to which we have been invited along with a lot of other people, some we know well and others we don’t know well, and somebody there starts casting slurs at another attendee and suggesting dishonesty on his part and they make a scene. Wouldn’t the host and other attendees there who know the abuser speak to him and tell him he’s out of line and to behave himself, and they also get the victim to calm down as well?
But it isn’t like that at all. It’s a forum, the only things we have is a wall of text, and people scroll past posts. I haven’t read any of the back-and-forth properly, the only thing I’ve seen is the odd line or two and the inappropriate language from Lance. We aren’t present in person and picking everything up, we can’t take social queues and see how upset or offended somebody is and if they are looking to others present to help. Most of us are just scrolling past things that don’t concern us. Two people tagging each other in short posts talking about something that isn’t on topic isn’t something I’m generally going to bother reading, and there’s no way I’m alone in that.
chlorox There is a reason when people get so angry they start posting tweets or Instagram against others. It doesn’t excuse it but there is always a cause. Is there any reason related to how he was treated here apart from the possibility somebody here raised of anyone whispering in his ear and further aggravating him?
Part of calming down a person who feels unfairly treated is to let him see that the slur against him is being publicly rejected there and then. If that is not done, he starts to wonder if the others also feel that way about him too and believe the slur though there is no evidence whatsoever presented to prove it….
The reason I want to reply is to address the instagram post properly. To be honest…I don’t think that’s a normal and healthy response. Put it this way, if somebody with almost 75,000 followers on Instagram and over 100k subscribers on youtube publicly slating a forum and calling for an individual to be banned for daring to question their integrity, isn’t a perfect example of narcissistic bullying, then I don’t know what is. I know he says that’s not the reason, but let’s be real here, if he weren’t aggrieved he wouldn’t be posting that.
From my understanding - which as I’ve said is going to be limited because I’ve barely read the posts - DFK assumed Lance had deliberately omitted a negative aspect about a product he had reviewed. He brought this up on youtube and then brought it up on the forum. Lance basically dismissed the significance of this and said he wasn’t aware something had been cut from the video. DFK doesn’t believe him and told him as much.
I think it’s perfectly reasonable for DFK to tell Lance they think they are lying about not checking the video. Lance is a content creator, making himself a public figure after all, and has opened himself up to this kind of scrutiny. If Lance has a problem with people questioning his integrity perhaps he should be more careful when he’s uploading content in the future to ensure things haven’t been omitted accidentally, especially when those things happen to be negative for the product being reviewed. As you say, there is no evidence, but this isn’t a court of law and we don’t need evidence to form opinions, we need only consider the balance of probability. It’s not unreasonable to expect a content creator to watch their videos before uploading and it’s not unreasonable to refuse to take their word for it when they tell you they don’t. That they are upset and outraged does not mean the scrutiny is unreasonable.
Personally, I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion Lance was lying but I do believe it is careless to upload content without checking it first. I don’t like that DFK was dragging something from youtube into the forum and into an unrelated (or loosely related) thread as that is harassment, or at least bordering on it. I don’t like that Lance decided to bring half a story from old conflicts on another forum (most of which weren’t public or had been deleted) that he doesn’t understand, and wasn’t part of, into the criticism of this forum.
…….Though as I said there’s a very good chance I’ve missed a whole lot and if I have then fair enough.