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You could hold it with chopsticks while pouring coffee over it? Please film it 🤪
Would be keen to hear what you think of this. If it is what they say it is… Then this whole idea of pre-heating up cups will be a thing of the past :-)
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Systemic Just for clarification for thickos lie me, doing this still leaves the shot warm enough to drink or is it supposed to cool it down?
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If I remember correctly in the video linked says that the coffee is at the “right drinking temperature”. I don’t know about you, but I drink my coffee 10 seconds after pouring. Presumably if the coffee is in contact with a frozen surface, it will be significantly cooler than what I’d classify as “right drinking temperature”.
DFK - Do you often leave your espresso to cool down prior to drinking? Do you warm up cups at all? Some say that one can pick up more flavours/tasting notes once the beverage cools down. I think that’s true, but I’m not a fan of drinking espresso lukewarm or cold. How about you?
MediumRoastSteam I rarely drink espresso unless the bean is really good. I normally drink americano or with a little milk. My cups are on the top of the Evo and after a few hours and warm but it is not a big thing with me. I have always held the belief that the cooler a drink becomes the more flavours you can pick out
MediumRoastSteam There have been a couple of videos on Youtube about not pre-heating cups. I can’t say I noticed a difference with cup at room temp for espresso.
I do leave mine to cool as I think the flavour becomes much better.
I might try sticking my cups in the fridge - freezer might be a step too far and risk cracking!
PortafilterProcrastinator - I much prefer them really hot - I usually pre-heat them with water from the kettle.
dfk41 Just for clarification for thickos lie me, doing this still leaves the shot warm enough to drink or is it supposed to cool it down
Good question. But you shouldn’t drink espresso too hot anyway. I am not expecting the earth to move when I try it out but it’s a bit of fun for a few bob.
Here’s the set up
Will give it a go tomorrow
MediumRoastSteam I much prefer them really hot - I usually pre-heat them with water from the kettle.
MediumRoastSteam Please film it 🤪
Will give it a go
MediumRoastSteam There must be a science experiment in this about different heat tolerances of taste buds and impact on flavour perception.
I would be happy to be paid in coffee to participate in such a study 🤣
As coffee cools, you get more body. Flavours come through more as well.
They came from same source
Systemic I used to have a few but goodness knows where they are now! If you want a spare or spares you are welcome!
Systemic how did you get on?
I am wondering if there’s really something to it. Tried two espressos to frozen cup yesterday and just now. Two different coffees and both seemed to have matched the flavour profile quite closely.
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prezes Better/ closer to the taste profile than with a room temp/ heated cup?
Do you have any concerns about pouring directly into frozen cups?
PortafilterProcrastinator yes, initial impressions are exactly that.
Normally I would drink it from a cup preheated on the machine.
I intend to test it on my wife tomorrow!
I used one of the thick cups to minimise the risk.
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Not fully replicating Hugh Kelly’s WBC routine. There, he only ran the first 12 grms of extraction over the frozen block.
Also trialling a puck screen to aid better water distribution across the puck which seems to be doing its job.
Shot was 17grms with a 1:2.5 ratio in around 33 secs total.
Espresso cup was pre-warmed and the shot was 50c.
Taste was very interesting. Huge silky mouthfeel akin to using a conical grinder but mine is a flat. Nicely balanced flavour - very fruit forward but not acidic. Definitely worth the effort.
Will try with other beans and try emulating Kelly’s routine of removing the frozen block around 12 grms.