Love my Niche but looking at getting a flat burr grinder to complement it. Besides the Lagom P64 can anybody recommend another flat burr grinder in that price range or less? To be uesed for single dosing.

Currently have a df64 but stock is okish not worth it over a niche. Once modded though (especially the declumber mod) and aligned properly it becomes a very good sidegrade from the niche to try flats. It has its shortcomings but very liveable I would say. Otherwise the only other good option is the kopiconcepts deva grinder. I left out the new eureka grinder cause reviews and overall construction leaves much to be desired. King of the hill at the moment is the lagom p64 since it has perfect alignment.

> @"Otaibimn"#p11957 King of the hill at the moment is the lagom p64 since it has perfect alignment. How is this evidenced?

@"DavecUK"#p11958 Df64 fully aligned (Dial Gauge) with SSP HU and p64 stock SSP HU. The df64 cannot grind fine enough to create enough puck resistance and most you get decent turbo shots. Carrier concentricty and general alignment is seriously needed at that level. Stock burrs are extremely decent and will be fine for most consumers but SSP hu 64mm is my main focus. The flavor profile is basically the perfect balance between conicals and flats. The current avaliable grinder with perfect alignment out of the box is the p64. The kopi deva has a nice malleable piece of copper that deforms during alignment so hoping it will solve this dilemma.

kopi deva looks nice tbf, ive seen a few vids on it, be nice to see how it grinds if you have the space there is a bargin of a mazzer major on ebay £400 5 months old, theres alot of 83mm flats for sale atm

@"Cuprajake"#p11961 I have put in an offer for the mazzer. For that sort of price seems like a good option to try out a flat burr. Space is not really an issue.

Its a cracking price Its been unsold the last 2 or 3 times, it finished yesterday at 400 no bids. Good luck

@"Cuprajake"#p11963 Seller counter offered and I accepted. So I have Major Mazzer on it's way hopefully soon - I am drinking a lot of lighter roasts at the moment so thought a flat burr may complement the Niche. Looking forward to getting it 🙂 Thanks for the ebay advice Cuprajake.

Brill. I was tempted as an update to mine as its a very good machine.

@"Cuprajake"#p11965 I thought, for its price, it would be a wise move to get it to "test the water" so to speak. To spend £1500 on a Lagom P64 and not enjoy a flat burr "profile" would be gutwrenching. Hope I did not cut you off from making an offer there mate.

Nah not at all, im still looking for a conical to test the other way

Flat Burr Grinder Recommendations

Cuprajake

looks well, done a good job

Beverast

Cheers for the feedback guys. I have emailed the owner and let himk know.

Beverast

I got a response from Daniel. It’s actually my fault as he does say on his website to check the dimensions. He advised the Mazzer Major I have is the latest one and the dimensions are quite different so the back plate he sent is for older models. However, he will make me a custom back plate and send it on me for free. That is great service.

DavecUK

Beverast That’s good service.

Cuprajake

Well you cant beat that for customer service :)

Petre

CafeNoir Nice! I am just curious, do you get good results with the rocket pump? I tried one and all it did was throw the grounds in the air and from there in my lungs rather than doing any useful work. I switched to one of these and finally got good results

CafeNoir

Petre Hi mate, yes there’s certainly an element of that all right, no matter how carefully I puff. A light coating on the grinder - and the puffer - that I find a bit annoying, very fine grounds that need brushing down afterwards. Just might try “your” duster.

On reflection, do you use at exit chute or (modded) as a hopper feed puffer?

Cheers, C

CafeNoir

Edit… I’ve abandoned the Rocket air blower because the dusting was just not acceptable with SWMBO.

Now it’s just a brushing out chute with either an old toothbrush or paint brush and a quick secondary pulse, with about 0.2-0.3 gm retained…that I can live with. A lid on the hopper resists th
e fines “escaping” during grinding.

As an aside, it really does make me appreciate just how well designed and executed some grinders - my Niche for example, are.

Cuprajake

Yeah I didn’t care for the blower.

I too brush

Newdent

Ernie1 I guess you found out the hard way but the Mini funnel doesn’t fit the major.

I don’t think stock mazzer flat burrs will be a million miles from a conical profile, both create a lot of fines.

Ernie1

Newdent I guess you found out the hard way but the Mini funnel doesn’t fit the major.

I have a Super Jolly so the Mini funnel fits.

The shorter Mini funnel fits well on the SJ if using a dosing cup as it gives extra space to leave the cup in place.

The Major is obviously larger so the mounting points may be different.

BBritton

Otaibimn I’m not sure why you say the DF64 will not grind fine enough. I aligned mine with only two thickness of tin foil on stock TIN burrs. I am able to stall out my Evo Leva easily. But when grinding fine such as below 10 clicks above touch point I need to feed beans slowly so not to clog it an get consistent grind.

I will install the SSP HU shortly as I also think they are worth a try.

Newdent

BBritton I was curious about this, I guess they’re saying the carriers are so badly aligned that you’re not able to grind fine enough. You can imagine that having the burrs badly out of alignment, you could end up with them having mostly a large exit from the burrs, even when touching.

I received my new DF64 this week the carriers are very badly aligned. I wouldn’t say any worse than a stock mazzer but it’s certainly not made as well as a Mazzer.

Otaibimn

BBritton That comment was with SSP HU.

Newdent

Otaibimn I’ve heard the kopi Deva can’t grind for espresso with SSP MP burrs as the motor isn’t up to the job. Quite bad when it gives instructions on how to fit the SSP burrs, you’d think they’d have tested them out!

hthec

Newdent they did an published their results and recommendations here.

https://www.kopiconcepts.com/news

Newdent

Ernie1 oh my bad, I got mixed up with who bought the major. I had a major and mini at the same time at one point and tried the major’s funnel with the mini out of interest but it didn’t fit. I don’t think it was only the holes, the diameter was different.

Yours looks good, I’ve not seen that method for holding a cup before. I actually quite like the mazzers. If you’ve got some sort of single dose setup then they are almost as good as a DF64 in my opinion. The 64 is only better as it’s much nicer to adjust. The difference being you can pick up a used SJ insanely cheap. I’ve seen a few on for £60 to £70 on Facebook marketplace. Such a bargain!

CafeNoir

Ernie1 Darn it, that looks very very good mate….may be poaching that idea, your dosing cup rest is so tidy

Ernie1

Newdent

Yeah I made the cup holder as I wasn’t using the PF fork. Works well!

I agree the adjustment is not at all easy on a Mazzer, but then I often just drink the same coffee for a kilo so I’m thankful it’s not easy to accidentally adjust. I suppose they’re commercial grinders so designed to withstand being knocked out of setting.

I just love how solid and robust Mazzers are and the abundance of parts due to their heritage and relatively unchanged design.

Probably not the ideal single dosing solution but perfect if you grind on-demand.

Newdent

Ernie1 agreed, they are perfect for a cafe and they way you’re using it. Nothing better for the price, especially if you’re picking it up used.

Newdent

hthec interesting, I didn’t realise they’d put specific details up, thanks. Perhaps they’ll create a v2 with a more powerful motor.

hthec

Newdent hope so. Actually if this v1 proves to be able to grind espresso with ssp cast or gorilla gear, I would get it. Even over a p64. It’s just so aesthetic

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