Isn’t this the same as the failed kick-starter project? https://youtu.be/yUvxBOGZJ5o

That’s the one! https://kafmasino.com/about-us/ looks like they are going ahead. EUR 1,600 though!

Doesn’t look like they have made changes based on their initial attempt. A pointless video.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSEOuZS5ovQ63uTGYQf6WpQ/videos This guys work is impressive! 😭[upl-image-preview url=https://i.imgur.com/vYGm6Yb.png]

It looks like what could happen if you left a randy Decent near an unattended Elizabeth overnight.

He doesn't mention the price in this video but it's not as cheap as one may expect from its build - was quite shocked to find out it would likely end up close to the price of a Bianca when you factor in the preorder discount, shipping and customs to the UK.

Looks to the cynical old me, that they are desperate to get to the market. They have a review done by a Youtube nobody who glosses over any of the technical points in favour of 304 steel and being excited about a steam knob. Is this worth ~£1800........I do not see a queue forming though no doubt I will be proved wrong......the icing on the cake for me would be a Lance Hendricks review!

What's the story of the failed kickstarter? A Decent competitor seems like a good thing to me. Looks wise, like one of the smaller Lelits… Kate, maybe?

> @"hthec"#p19887 What’s the story of the failed kickstarter? A Decent competitor seems like a good thing to me. They are the same people (two Spanish brothers) who failed to secure funding via kickstarter. It’s the same machine. The whole trajectory is somewhat documented here: https://www.coffeeforums.co.uk/threads/kafmasino-one-advanced-coffee-made-simple.59743/ https://www.coffeeforums.co.uk/threads/kafmasino-one.59713/ > @"dfk41"#p19880 Is this worth £1800 Prices quoted are in Euros, not Pound Sterling. It’s €1,800 and €1,600 for pre-orders, which translates to approx. £1,370.

Not really a "looker" imo. I dunno, looks a bit cheap for a higher endish price? After cusoms to the UK etc. price is above £1500. Either way I would not go for this anyway even if it was less money due to its aesthetics.

Kafmacino One - full functional test

LMSC

hornbyben unless you hit a lotto or get some inheritance 😂

Petre

I think it does a lot of things right and you probably get what a Decent gets you for a fraction of price. I don’t think it competes with Bianca, what does Bianca know to do aside looking shiny?!

I think a problem is that it seems a very boring product, they just mixed designs from Lelit and Rancilio and internals from Decent🤷. If they would have put some original things on the table (especially the design) we were talking different things now.

But maybe the small price would make it something similar with DF64.

MediumRoastSteam

Petre and internals from Decent

It might make it somewhat similar to a Decent, but I don’t think the technology used is anywhere close!

For instance, A Decent machine does not have boilers :-)

Petre

MediumRoastSteam true, this one has boiler. But I remeber that guy in video said that is mixing the hot and cold water to get the temp and I have not heard anything else than Decent to do that.

Petre

This guy’s design is the goat.. The only one I know that pours from half a meter hight. Salt bae style.

hthec

Petre it’s for ease of filming the bottomless, for the gram you know…

Cuprajake

Why did he put music over the extraction?🤔

DavecUK

Cuprajake I wondered the same….in a review I try never to do that, unless I’m pissing about and making a joke of slo mo pours and music.

Inspector

I think preorder price has been updated. Now €950

Cuprajake

Lot to spend on an untested new machine

MediumRoastSteam

Cuprajake - and that’s a 40% discount from the original price of… €1,600!

CoyoteOldMan

MediumRoastSteam If I were a bit cynical, that’d be telling me: we’re trying to cut losses, and at least get rid of the unsold inventory of parts.

But I’m not a cynicist. Best of luck to them, in any case.

Cuprajake

Yeah at £1600 I’m buying a Bianca haha

DavecUK

CoyoteOldMan Standard marketing, have a discount on a price they came up with, on a product not yet on sale.

Always great to see a new machine from a new entrant, but it’s much harder now and money a lot tighter. Many people will want an established company with backup and parts that are more generic and easily obtained.

MediumRoastSteam

Me? cynical? Never…. 🤣

Also, I tried to go through the order flow on their website. Except there’s no way to order one? As in, there’s no “buy” or “order” button?

CoyoteOldMan

MediumRoastSteam I think it’s because

MediumRoastSteam

🤦‍♂️

DavecUK

MediumRoastSteam Giphy - armie hammer lol GIF by Film4

Rob1

It’s a factory Chinese machine from Alibaba with some parts and software. Might actually be decent, no pun intended, but it’s a big risk to take.

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