You just need to buy it when you’re doing a house project, and then everything else feels cheap 🤣

  • LMSC replied to this.

    I think it does a lot of things right and you probably get what a Decent gets you for a fraction of price. I don’t think it competes with Bianca, what does Bianca know to do aside looking shiny?!

    I think a problem is that it seems a very boring product, they just mixed designs from Lelit and Rancilio and internals from Decent🤷. If they would have put some original things on the table (especially the design) we were talking different things now.

    But maybe the small price would make it something similar with DF64.

      Petre and internals from Decent

      It might make it somewhat similar to a Decent, but I don’t think the technology used is anywhere close!

      For instance, A Decent machine does not have boilers :-)

        MediumRoastSteam true, this one has boiler. But I remeber that guy in video said that is mixing the hot and cold water to get the temp and I have not heard anything else than Decent to do that.

        This guy’s design is the goat.. The only one I know that pours from half a meter hight. Salt bae style.

          Why did he put music over the extraction?🤔

          Decent De1pro v1.45 - Niche Duo - Niche Zero - Decent is the best machine ever made -

            Cuprajake I wondered the same….in a review I try never to do that, unless I’m pissing about and making a joke of slo mo pours and music.

            Petre it’s for ease of filming the bottomless, for the gram you know…

            3 months later

            I think preorder price has been updated. Now €950

            Lot to spend on an untested new machine

            Decent De1pro v1.45 - Niche Duo - Niche Zero - Decent is the best machine ever made -

              Yeah at £1600 I’m buying a Bianca haha

              Decent De1pro v1.45 - Niche Duo - Niche Zero - Decent is the best machine ever made -

              MediumRoastSteam If I were a bit cynical, that’d be telling me: we’re trying to cut losses, and at least get rid of the unsold inventory of parts.

              But I’m not a cynicist. Best of luck to them, in any case.

                CoyoteOldMan Standard marketing, have a discount on a price they came up with, on a product not yet on sale.

                Always great to see a new machine from a new entrant, but it’s much harder now and money a lot tighter. Many people will want an established company with backup and parts that are more generic and easily obtained.

                Me? cynical? Never…. 🤣

                Also, I tried to go through the order flow on their website. Except there’s no way to order one? As in, there’s no “buy” or “order” button?

                  It’s a factory Chinese machine from Alibaba with some parts and software. Might actually be decent, no pun intended, but it’s a big risk to take.