Niche Zero V2 ?

Ernie1 I just meant I’m not sure if she’d be over the moon if I bought a second espresso machine.

Yeh I got that, I was just replying tongue in cheek

DavecUK In reality there are chinesium products and proper products e.g. Iphone, Niche, etc..

A lot of Chinese products are C-E marked. As industry has found out to its cost the C-E stands for China Export. At the end of the day, as you say, Good design and adherence to high quality standards results in good manufacturing, wherever the product is built.

I hadn’t looked for this info for some time

Another - indicates what DaveC was saying about good Chinese manufacture

Just to throw my two pence in !
I originally bought df64 and niche. It was a no brained to me and df64 went.

18 months later and still happy with niche but upgraditus kept kicking in and I really fancied flat burrs. Tried Major and loved it but way to large for my space.

Tried df83 and I’m delighted with it. Niche is gone now (saying that I would not hesitate for a second to buy another one as loved every minute of owning it).
With the df83 I changed the burrs to mazzer (can’t comment on originals as not used them at all), removed one of the declumpers and polished the chute with beeswax (thanks @tompoland).
Really pleased with it although it’s not really same price bracket as df64/Niche.

Nightrider_1uk A lot of Chinese products are C-E marked. As industry has found out to its cost the C-E stands for China Export

All CE means is that a manufacture has checked that a product meets EU standards where the apply. They should then have a declaration of conformity. Any manufacturer anywhere can do that if they want. It’s mostly self certification.

Odd thing is that countries may have different markings but all of the major countries accept each others so CE for instance can be found all over the world. There is zero difference really in what is needed.

prezes Really pleased with it although it’s not really same price bracket as df64/Niche.

I have a Solo which seems to be mentioned in the same breath as a DF64. I don’t like it. Wont sell it as I would have to say a user may have problems with some beans. Removing one of the rubber flaps on the grinds output helps but best replaced with spacing washers. ;) I think I was the first to notice it wont take Mazzer burrs.

Also tried HU burrs in it and found the same aspects about using them as a few others have mentioned.

Buy a pure Chinese produced and made grinder again. ;) Afraid not. Maybe when they have more experience.

ajohn think I was the first to notice it wont take Mazzer burrs.

There’s a thread where a few successful users are running the grinder with Mazzer super jolly burrs.

Not a perfect fit as some say, but nothing that can’t be remedied.

MediumRoastSteam There’s a thread where a few successful users are running the grinder with Mazzer super jolly burrs.

I don’t think that would make any difference to my beefs with it. In fact a spacer under the bottom burr would probably make them worse - assuming they have used the correct depth of the sweepers. I could take the carrier out and remachine it accurately and make a ring to allow the original to be fitted again as well but in my view it has other problems.