Has anyone heard any rumors of a Niche Zero v2 and if so, what improvements are being contemplated. I haven’t heard anything so I do not wish to stir up unfounded rumors. Just curious.

I have no idea, but if it ain't broke…. It still gets talked about as having about the best workflow around. I'm sure they'd be working on improvements in the background but until the Niche has been bettered by a competitor then it's probably not worthwhile making minor changes.

Not rumours as such, as I believe Martin (Niche Ltd) will not even mention anything to anyone until he is happy with whatever he has designed, no matter how long that would take. This was the case with the Niche Zero (the only minor delay it had once the delivery date was announced was because the production run of the grinding cups were not up to Martin's standards), so I can't see why it would be any different with any new versions. In all honesty, I prefer this technique to other marketing techniques such as, for example, the one used for the Londinium Vectis: They advertise a new product, they set expectations of a release date, and as years pass by, excuses upon excuses are given on why it has been delayed. In summary: Best not to create expectations. 😀 However, the community of Niche Zero users - myself included - has been longing for a Flat Niche for a while. And we all know that, if Niche manages to make a flat burr grinder that has a similar workflow to the current one, priced right, will be very popular within the community. 🤞

i think it speaks volumes for niche that every new grinder that comes out gets labelled as 'niche killer' i know some are not a fan, but when you look at the price point of the niche theres nothing to rival it.

> @"MediumRoastSteam"#p36553 In all honesty, I prefer this technique to other marketing techniques such as, for example, the one used for the Londinium Vectis: They advertise a new product, they set expectations of a release date, and as years pass by, excuses upon excuses are given on why it has been delayed. In summary: Best not to create expectations. 😀 In all honesty though matey, one firm has a track record of delivering, one has just the opposite. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXGVFJqSqqg

I know it’s so subjective but even as a flat burr fan I’d buy one if it got a new design. I’ve been so close to buying a Niche over the past couple of years as the benefits makes a lot of sense but try as I might, I don’t like how it looks. Most grinders seem to be designed around their function, Dieter Rams style, whereas the Niche feels like it tries a bit too hard to look nice. A zero retention flat with the Niche’s ease of adjustment and price point would also be great though.

> @"Ernie1"#p36566 A (1) zero retention flat with (2) the Niche’s ease of adjustment and (3) price point I'm sure that's a Moca SD I can see sitting in the Swiss Alps with your name on it... (2 out of 3 is not bad.)

@"tompoland"#p36567 Literally the only reason I haven’t got one on the way is because I’d have a Cremina on the way too. And then I’d probably be looking for a new wife also.

@"tompoland"#p36567 its only small burr is it not? i know sworks do a flat bur conversion for the niche but im pretty certain there a 10mm burr (jk)

@"Cuprajake"#p36571 64mm flat so a reasonable size... https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/blog/1253-olympia-moca-sd-first-looks-review-november-2022

@"Ernie1"#p36566 I agree about the styling on the Niche, it has always seemed a mismatch of star wars styling with timber accents. Purely personal. I wonder whether the ACS grinder shown at Rimini is a 64mm flat or conical.

Niche Zero V2 ?

Nightrider_1uk

Ernie1 I just meant I’m not sure if she’d be over the moon if I bought a second espresso machine.

Yeh I got that, I was just replying tongue in cheek

Nightrider_1uk

DavecUK In reality there are chinesium products and proper products e.g. Iphone, Niche, etc..

A lot of Chinese products are C-E marked. As industry has found out to its cost the C-E stands for China Export. At the end of the day, as you say, Good design and adherence to high quality standards results in good manufacturing, wherever the product is built.

ajohn

Nightrider_1uk A lot of Chinese products are C-E marked. As industry has found out to its cost the C-E stands for China Export

All CE means is that a manufacture has checked that a product meets EU standards where the apply. They should then have a declaration of conformity. Any manufacturer anywhere can do that if they want. It’s mostly self certification.

Odd thing is that countries may have different markings but all of the major countries accept each others so CE for instance can be found all over the world. There is zero difference really in what is needed.

ajohn

I hadn’t looked for this info for some time

ajohn

Another - indicates what DaveC was saying about good Chinese manufacture

Ernie1

Well and it’s not even like British manufacturing is an automatic mark of quality assurance. My other half just had two separate pairs of boots from an English maker break in different places within 10 wears.

Also, one of my Triumph motorbikes is made in the far east and I’d go as far as saying the fit and finish is actually better than the British made one.

prezes

Just to throw my two pence in !
I originally bought df64 and niche. It was a no brained to me and df64 went.

18 months later and still happy with niche but upgraditus kept kicking in and I really fancied flat burrs. Tried Major and loved it but way to large for my space.

Tried df83 and I’m delighted with it. Niche is gone now (saying that I would not hesitate for a second to buy another one as loved every minute of owning it).
With the df83 I changed the burrs to mazzer (can’t comment on originals as not used them at all), removed one of the declumpers and polished the chute with beeswax (thanks @tompoland).
Really pleased with it although it’s not really same price bracket as df64/Niche.

ajohn

prezes Really pleased with it although it’s not really same price bracket as df64/Niche.

I have a Solo which seems to be mentioned in the same breath as a DF64. I don’t like it. Wont sell it as I would have to say a user may have problems with some beans. Removing one of the rubber flaps on the grinds output helps but best replaced with spacing washers. ;) I think I was the first to notice it wont take Mazzer burrs.

Also tried HU burrs in it and found the same aspects about using them as a few others have mentioned.

Buy a pure Chinese produced and made grinder again. ;) Afraid not. Maybe when they have more experience.

MediumRoastSteam

ajohn think I was the first to notice it wont take Mazzer burrs.

There’s a thread where a few successful users are running the grinder with Mazzer super jolly burrs.

Not a perfect fit as some say, but nothing that can’t be remedied.

ajohn

MediumRoastSteam There’s a thread where a few successful users are running the grinder with Mazzer super jolly burrs.

I don’t think that would make any difference to my beefs with it. In fact a spacer under the bottom burr would probably make them worse - assuming they have used the correct depth of the sweepers. I could take the carrier out and remachine it accurately and make a ring to allow the original to be fitted again as well but in my view it has other problems.

MediumRoastSteam

ajohn - this is the thread I referred to above: https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/413-the-general-solo-df64-thread

Check towards the more recent posts.

dutchy101

I’m using Mazzers in mine and they are working very well for me. Strange that they still do not seem to have used a suitable clump crusher - the one I sourced from Etsy and replaced in my unit is excellent. Coming up to 2 years of ownership of the grinder and have absolutely no plans to change it. Thought it seems quite widely regarded as a well-built grinder. I was convinced to buy it when I read @DavecUK’s review.

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