I would like to see a real world objective test with information about what am I missing by Only enjoying a £880 Mazer Philos as opposed to the Lagom and even the EG1 or monolith flat.
The EG1 is raved about by certain people, Hedrick, Rudolph etc one of which should know his stuff, but doesn’t seem popular to all.
The comparisons should clearly say things Like how much “better” the coffee is in the cup and what better actually means to the tester, i e. What i would find at home. And an impression of life span and expected repairs along the lifecycle.
Not sure how an informative comparison can be made by a brief overview at a trade show.
For me the Philos was my second most expensive grinder purchase.
For me it makes the DF83v2 look like a £300 grinder , in fact on a par with the smart grinder pro for consistency . Extremely disappointing purchase in many ways . Put me off the “DF” for good.
To me, Philos is better than the df83, niche zero and sage smart grinder pro(!!)
Then theres the t64. The philos should out-last the t64 by a margin but the coffee is pretty much on par . Not the same but then the differences are personal and one day you would prefer either . Both worthy of the home coffee bar.
Same comments really for the Duo. Very similar and getting closer to the same perceived build quality. I still have the Duo and Philos in daily use and the Prime a few times a week (my oldest and most expensive purchase!). Considering boxing the prime and giving the key a second chance now im ready to accept a minute squirt of mist isn’t going to hurt it.
I would love to be able to go further and compare the £880 to the £3000 but am not in a position to have this kind of kit sent to me for evaluation or to purchase one when I do not think i could see it as being better to give a 3.4 X price premium. Im not aware of anywhere having this kind if kit available to test.
As for the EK43 i get the impression it is a fantastic pour over grinder for a cafe but not a serious home grinder if your main interest is espresso. I see them when abroad working, in supermarkets where they throw kg after kg through it , grinding customers bean purchases. A real consistent work horse in that environment.
My job is nothing to do with coffee, other than a travel mug in my van(!) but im and engineer type and may look for different things than some of you on here. Im as interested in the design and build quality as i am in the taste in the cup.
I also appreciate the different costs associated with precision machining and assembly as opposed to my imagined view of a cheaper low quality plant and assembly line.
Notice the lack of the Chinese tag which so many freely toss around to mean low quality.
The best and the worst products come from China.
Then some great products come from Taiwan, USA, Italy, Germany and dare i say, UK.