When someone sells something for less than people think they should!
A 796 Monster that’s totally unmolested.
Also found a 821 that doesn’t look to shabby either!
Mine at lower price took few good weeks to sell and I had to list it everywhere possible - I recommend doing the same, my buyer found it on Gumtree.
The £1750 was very low for the machine to sell and really did every other owner of a Evo lever no favours when it comes to re sale value though did it?
As a reference now people will always struggle to sell for over or close to £2k
All imo obs
People are free to sell for what they want
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But at the end of the day it’s worth what people will pay, that might not be as much as you’d like to think it’s worth and might mean your machine has depreciated more than you’d hoped for.
Yeah totally, it just didn’t help the situation..
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Reality is now anyone who gets one under £1800 is getting a bargain of a machine
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Dusk Aye exactly this. If something is a bargain it’ll be snapped up quickly in my opinion. People pushing it as one doesn’t make it one, nor does keeping the price artificially high. (As it still took @Petre weeks to sell at 1750 after pursuing every channel.)
Whereas if it’s a fair price, it may take a while in this current climate. It’s all about balancing a need to sell quickly (like the one at 1750), or preferring to wait to get a fair price for it. Similarly for the buyer; if somebody really wants something, they will pay more to have it quickly, but if only mildly interested, they will be more careful with their money.
On the subject, if somebody has a Rivian R1T in the UK, I’ll happily pay a good price…
Cuprajake I do understand that as an owner it’s frustrating, and seems selfish for one guy to sell low and mess up the market for the others by setting a precedent, but don’t really think it works like this. I’m sure there’s gonna be a lot of niche zero owners in the near future getting rid of their machines cheaply for a duo. Will it reduce the value of mine in the short term? Sure, but that’s not why I bought it. It is what it is at the end of the day, people have a lot of choice in this price range.
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Don’t agree Jake. We all like to think something has an intrinsic value which is not the case. You can value something at whatever price you like but if no-one wants to buy, where does that leave you? It’s the market that determines price.
An example. Arrarex Caravel levers were popular and were bought and sold on another forum quite regularly with good condition ones selling for £250 and above. I have one and were I to try and sell it, what price do you think I would get for it realistically? Probably, lower as there isn’t the same level of interest in the Caravels nowadays. I could determine mine’s value at over £250 allowing for inflation but I would be surprised to find potential buyers beating a path to my door.
When items are in high demand but scarce in supply, ‘value’ can exceed market price. Niche is a good example.
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Without getting into machine specifics, sure, it is a classic supply and demand.
Every owner, irrespective of a machine or a grinder, has a right to dispose off the used at what ever the price they would like to set. We know no body has got a d*** right to question that. We see that in super market price wars.
However, this isn’t a super market. It’s a niche market where the used gets a fair price.
A used Evo at £1750 was a deeply discounted bargain hunt. We all know that the Evo is worth more than it has been sold at. Some are glad Systemic sold off his second machine very quickly, while some Evo users aren’t as it has permanently devalued their machines’ worth. We can’t say that’s a reality nor the other users can’t express their opinion.
I remember some one on this forum or elsewhere stating may be Evo isn’t actually worth as it was made out to be. Really?
A lot of users like self is unlikely to sell this machine and may continue using it unless it can no longer be updated (parts) or one of us (self or the machine) packs. I will tell my daughter she either uses it or give it to a good cause. 😁
But, it is a gentle reminder to those Evo users that they are going to struggle to sell their Evo, should they choose to sell at a higher price than the last sold price in the future. We know the used Evos may need price setting to the south of the previous selling price. Unfortunate, IMHO.
One might also have to remember this while buying new. Will I buy a new Evo, should my daughter nick the one we have at home. No, I will go back to filter. Period.
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LMSC We are very sorry that this thread is being used in a way it should not be.
Best words said written in this thread in a while.
It is neither right nor appropriate to tamper with the sales thread.
Thx Dave.