skylark Photos would help, but on my Minima I use a damp stainless steel e-cloth and dry microfibre cloth. If it needs a more thorough clean I use Method stainless steel cleaner.

For the group and shower screen every 3-5 days….I drop the screen and thoroughly clean, or I can taste it.

With the body of the machine, if it’s really dirty I find a polar solvent is best used first…e.g. water with a touch of washing up liquid…go over gently with a Microfibre…..then move to a stainless steel cleaner like method….or non polar solvents like Isopropyl.

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Well now. I tried Method SS cleaner on the front plate and surprisingly considered its tried and tested by others here, it didnt improve matters. Is it actually possible that the front plate is of a different stainless steel to the rest of the cabinet as mine is starting to look tarnished all over tantamount to rust. Its difficult to photograph but is just mottled in many placesas though its been sandblasted and allowed to dry, hmmm!

    skylark Well now. I tried Method SS cleaner on the front plate and surprisingly considered its tried and tested by others here, it didnt improve matters. Is it actually possible that the front plate is of a different stainless steel to the rest of the cabinet as mine is starting to look tarnished all over tantamount to rust. Its difficult to photograph but is just mottled in many placesas though its been sandblasted and allowed to dry, hmmm!

    You need to be careful with brushed stainless and clean it with cleaners that prevent it staining…the brushed surface is a little more prone to it. certain cleaners may promote it as well.

    One reason why I only use water/distilled water to clean.

    Good advice but i’ve never cleaned this case with anything other than a wipe over of warm water and, more recently given that it looks like a dogs breakfast to me anyway, a stainless weinman wipe, and now a slosh of Method cleaner. Nothing has helped and its looking like i’ll have to live with it. I suppose what i’m asking, does this sound normal to be tarnishing (?) up on only the front plate? Are other LE fronts as spick and span as the rest of the bodywork? May just be my paranoia eh. I’m going to give it a good old chrome clean soon, in for a penny ….

      I use window cleaner and a niche brush to agitate before wiping off with a microfibre. Window cleaner seems to be an excellent coffee solvent and doesnt leave a residue.

      skylark does this sound normal to be tarnishing (?) up on only the front plate

      To put your mind at rest, even on my machine (Elizabeth) which never saw anything other than water or 75% alcohol gel at times (used once, but makes no difference really), the front plate seems to be different from the rest of machine. Water cleans everything else spotless. But the front panel does look different, tarnished as you say.

      Well I managed a photo of my front and it doesn’t do justice to its poor condition. Surely something will polish this back to good ….

        That’s it AFTER a clean. It looked like rust beforehand! Just a nice ‘cloud effect’ happening now …

        It’s almost as though a lacquer is delaminating 🤔

        skylark That looks to me like the SS is lacquer coated and the coating is flaking off. I had a cheap SS water bottle that had a similar lacquer type coating that started to come off in very similar patterns. If that’s the case not much you can do to make it look any better - more cleaning will simply remove more lacquer and make it look worse.

          Gagaryn

          Delaminating!

          It’s less than 2 months old and not been touched other than with a wipedown after each session.

            skylark Not sure if you are saying “it isn’t flaking lacquer” or “disappointing that the lacquer is flaking so soon.”

            If the former - looks like it from the photo but you have the machine in front of you - you’ll know better than me.

            If the latter - still entirely possible, likely caused by poor surface prep, likely oil remnants from the brushing process prior to spraying the lacquer. Clearly shouldn’t have happened and it’s a defect that warrants return for remedy.

              Mine looks like this:

              Never used specific cleaning products though - just alcohol gel a couple of times.

              It’s just the splash panel that is like this. The other parts of the machine are impeccable. Wondering if a weak solution of Puly might do the trick (assuming that’s coffee oils, as I can’t think of being anything else).

                App baby oil is good on ss

                But I’ve had good experiences with baby wipes filled by microfiber cloth immediately after it

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                Gagaryn

                There is NO actual peeling lacquer. It has just started to look like this. Initially it looked like a sprayer shot had erupted all over the front but that’s not the case. I think the use of water followed by a drying down has allowed the top coating to be breached and what i was seeing looked just like rust. I have raised a query with BB as it can only get worse in my opinion. Let’s see what they say.

                MediumRoastSteam

                Could be worth a try. That’s exactly how it looked but as i say it wasn’t the case.