simonc The clay cleaner I mentioned above takes my brushed stainless bbq that is never covered back to show room and removes tiny rust and other stains that have sat in the sun and rain for weeks and months.

Love to try this on my neglected BBQ. Can you post a link to this stuff.

      simonc I kind of love websites like that.

      If it can clean as quickly and as easily as that they can take my money gladly.

      I’ll also be sure to use the same pot for both my alloy wheels, bathroom taps and coffee machine! 🤣

      Seriously though, I reckon its worth a punt. Spent more on less in my life.

          simonc does the presence of quartz as ingredient mean it’s abrasive?

          Yup!

            Oops didn’t think about that - sorry mate. Want one for your oven, lol?

            Seeing that clay cleaner has made me wonder whether a clay bar (for car detailing) would work. A clay bar isn’t abrasive but does work incredibly well at removing all contamination from car paintwork.

              Dusk A clay bar isn’t abrasive

              Clay bar’s are abrasive.

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                  Gagaryn

                  Are they? They must barely be if they’re used for car paintwork

                      Dusk Are they? They must barely be if they’re used for car paintwork

                      Yup, but used carefully on car paintwork by people who understand what they are doing - and always with plenty lubricant and followed by a finer polish. :)

                          Gagaryn

                          …. and lots iof Sunday diy’ers. Nit much to using them.mind so I’m guessing they’re safe if used with lube.

                            15 days later

                            Just a quick update, not been around recently. BellaBarista are posting me a replacement front panel under warranty, took a while for them to get back and if i read between the lines properly it’s a strip off an existing machine. I’ll take it, got to be better than mine currently looks …. good to have a fallback. Seems LEs are hard to source atm. Something to do with Breville takeover?? BB are no longer stocking Lelit machines once all current stock has expired. Got agood supplier of spare parts anyone or considering building up a stock?

                              skylark Got he front plate this morning. Good service all round from BB as usual. This plate isn’t new but looks a way better than my current front so I’m happy that I have an option come trade up time. Looking at a Bianca …

                                  skylark go for it. beauty is at the eye of the holder but to me, Bianca is a different league compared to Elizabeth. way more pretty to look at :)