Dusk I would tend to agree as a new DF64 user. I have not used another electric grinder to compare against though the DF64 does appear noisy. It’s not so much the noise but the piecing nature while grinding. After many years hand grinding, the convenience and the shear value (with Tom’s help) means overall I am very happy with it.

      Another order placed. Thank you @tompoland for the code, hopefully this improves my SB express until i save up for an upgrade :)

      If anyone is wondering what “the code” is referring to, it gives you 10% off DF grinders when ordering from df64coffee.com in Singapore.

      Pease note that I don’t receive any comission and also if you can get the same grinder locally for say within 20% extra compared to df64coffee prices, I’d recommend you buy local (and especially if you are in driving distance to the supplier).

      The code is: tompolandcommunity

      BTW the DF64 Gen 2 will accommodate SSP burrs but note that I’m down to 3 on the dial with them for light roasts so I might run out of runway if grinding Nordic light beans for expresso. I’ve got some coming from Tim Wendleboe that should be here in a few weeks so I’ll try and remember to let you know how it goes. In the meantime I’m currently using the Gen 2 daily and its delivering wonderful espresso in the cup and the antistatic device is such a great idea that it will surely become a feature of an increasing number of new models.

      Thanks for these posts @tompoland . I’m seriously considering modding my niche now to add the antistatic; seems like an easy mod to do. Might try to find a broken one to play with though as I’m already curious about replacing the controller with a teensy to add a little extra functionality (auto off after grinding, timing etc)

        capuchin good luck, I always feel full of envy when I read about mechanically capable people like you. Would love some pics as you go along.

          2 months later

          It turned out a reputable local company is carrying DF64 Gen 2 without SSP options, at fairly good price. Not ground breaking but basically just a̶ l̶i̶t̶t̶l̶e̶ m̶o̶r̶e̶ t̶h̶a̶n̶ no, cheaper than buying from df64coffee + shipping (even with the 10% code from Tom), and I don’t have to worry about taxes or warranty.

          Would it be worth buying one if I already have Niche Zero? I love the workflow on NZ but have been wondering if I have missed out on the “note separation” that was promised from 64mm flat vs 63mm conical. Also light roast.

          I gave mine its first clean after almost 4 ½ months (yes I know I should have done it sooner). I measured about 1.5g of coffee that I removed so there was probably about 2g if I include all the bits that went over the kitchen counter. It looked really quite clean inside and there was just the odd bit of a more oily residue stuck in a few places, I also found how easy it is to pull apart and how well made it is. The top position for the burr carrier was even marked so it went back in the correct way and touch point for the burrs was perfectly at zero on the dial (I haven’t previously checked it).

          22 days later

          Calling all Gen 2ers.

          I’m writing a review for the DF64 Gen 2.

          I’d love to know what you like about it and what you’d change if you had a magic wand.

          Also, how would you rate it for filter (something I personally still find a bit hit and miss in general, not just with the Gen 2).

          All comments will be gratefully received and reviewed.

          Pros:

          • Built like a tank
          • Flat burrs allow for much better clarity
          • Fast grinding

          Cons:

          • Noisy
          • Grind adjustment isn’t very smooth
          • Dose cup rattles if not in the correct position
          • Still retains grinds despite the bellows and plasma generator
          • PITA to clean the chute (I’ve dropped the screws inside the grinder)

          I’ll probably relegate the DF64 to a filter only grinder at some point and buy something strictly for espresso/milk drinks. I’m looking at the niche duo or p64.

          Tom;

          I don’t care for the rubber ‘grippers’ on the forks that hold the portafilter/dosing cup in place, as they are prone to tear and/or wear-out. Mine are done for in less than 2 months. I think that the fork is an inelegant solution that may have had a better idea applied.

          Also the On/Off Switch is starting to act up and I think that I’ll need to request a replacement pretty soon.

          Other than these issues the grinder itself has preformed well, and is fast and efficient, albeit a bit noisy (but for a very short grind cycle…).

          Cheers

          One of my rubber bits has also worn through after a few months, I think I will try something else in its place that’s a bit more sturdy.

          All very helpful observations thanks

          22 days later

          To plagiarize Redla as I tend to agree,

          Pros:

          • Built like a tank

          • Fast grinding

          • Small footprint

          • Quiet at idle

          • Price

          Cons:

          • Noisy when grinding (but doesn’t take long)

          • Grind adjustment isn’t very smooth particular on expresso settings.

          • Grind adjustment settings hard to read without my glasses i.e. if you are going back to 12 for example from filter, I end up having to count the marks from 10.

          • As I drink mainly expresso I have highlighted the ‘10’ to make return easier

          • Dose cup rattles if not in the correct position

          • Needs a couple of squirts of water to stop static / retention

          • You do occasionally find beans still sitting on the anti-pop disc.

          Apart from that, so far all good.