How would you compare rhe vectis with an argos or with a ponce vecchio export? Apart from the much cheaper prices of the latter…the price of the vectis would certainly rule it out for me as a second espresso machine but something maxing out at 1k usd would be a lot more palatable if I should ever want to add an office lever machine…

> @"chlorox"#p56684 How would you compare rhe vectis with an argos or with a ponce vecchio export? Apart from the much cheaper prices of the latter…the price of the vectis would certainly rule it out for me as a second espresso machine but something maxing out at 1k usd would be a lot more palatable if I should ever want to add an office lever machine I'm not sure who the question is aimed at. I reviewed and extensively used a Ponte Vecchio Lusso 1 and a La Pavoni Cellini…but of course have never used a Vectis, just seen the reviews, the inside of the machine and have a firm technical understanding of how these machines work. So I can't easily compare except to refer to my post above on information gleaned from the Daddys got coffee review https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/d/2153-why-you-might-not-want-to-buy-a-londinium/39 The two machines I reviewed would not be suitable for a general office, as they don't lend themselves to multiple people using them, and with the exception of the Ponte Vecchio Lusso one, don't appreciate being on all day. In addition having any of these 2 machines I reviewed in an office poses a potential safety risk, beyond that of a normal coffee machines. **Unless** it's a single or 2 person office, where both people have been trained and are totally familiar with the usage of such a machine.

> @"DavecUK"#p56686 La Pavoni Cellini… I think you mean the La Pavoni Europiccola - a lever machine, rather than the Cellini, which is a pump machine, E61. I remember reading the review, back in the day. 👍

@"DavecUK"#p56686 I was throwing out the question for anyone with th3 experience of using those machines so thanks for the reply…by office machine I meant my own personal machine at the office - it wouldn't be used by anyone else…

> @"MediumRoastSteam"#p56691 I think you mean the La Pavoni Europiccola - a lever machine, rather than the Cellini, which is a pump machine, E61. I remember reading the review, back in the day. 👍 Your right, I meant the Stradivari….so many machines over the years, I sometimes get mixed up.

@"chlorox"#p56694 \`re you an espresso drinker or do you need to steam milk?

@"dfk41"#p56696 In the office, just espresso is fine

@"chlorox"#p56697 Does @"DavecUK"#1 want to split this thread so as not t o derail it from the original topic? @"chlorox"#631, I have a suggestion!

@"chlorox"#631, there are many vintage machines available that are nice on compact yet make remarkable espresso. To name a few: Arrarex Caravel……small basket, open boiler makes a really sweet ristretto Pedretti Kim……..58mm pf and is also spring loaded Bruni Brunella I could go on! This is a really good site, full of information on vintage stuff and a pleasure to read if you want to pass a few minutes. It opens up on the Arrarex page but is easy to navigate http://www.francescoceccarelli.eu/m_arrarex_eng.htm He also sells a good range of spares

I had in my past life a La Pavoni Europiccola and a Professional. You got to be careful around them, as the boiler is essentially exposed and uninsulated. I would not recommend having a video meeting and try to pull a coffee at the same time. They also overheat very easily if left idling or when pulling multiple shots.

Strietman CT2 would be perfect choice for such use case.

Small Office Lever machine

chlorox

Thanks for the posts dfk41 and Amberale

dfk41

Amberale Great idea! But unfortunately I have no such stuff lying around! When I was waiting for my Evo to turn up, I did buy a tamper of the wrong size and my good pal @Norvin offered to turn it down for me. So, I sent it and the basket last week and they are due back today, if you believe the tracking!

MediumRoastSteam

chlorox - never seen or used a Caravel, so cannot comment. 👍

Systemic

Caravel is a gem You can brew very accurately - pop a temp probe like a Thermopen into Lambettthe heating water which isn’t pressurised. Portafiler is tiny. There is no spring so you control extraction pressure. Result is a nice ristretto Two sips at best. Mine sits on the hall console table as it is a work of art - think Lambretta in an espresso machine.

Systemic

Mine has a bespoke dosing ring

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