yeah, i just ment no one else can use it, so i just give radings

Decent De1pro v1.45 - Niche Duo - Niche Zero - Decent is the best machine ever made -

Across the Pond question here- is it your decision as a home owner what kind of meter you have?! Here in the states (in large cities that is) all of the gear up to your distribution panel is all owned and operated by the utility company. Same goes with water and sewer.

    Had a smet2 smart meter fitted a couple of years ago because we got an EV and wanted a home charger which we couldn’t have if we didn’t have a smart meter. Can’t say I’ve noticed anything untoward and yes prices have risen but nothing to do with the smart meter as I got it before the leccy and gas hike and my bills never changed before that.

      I’m with ovo and prices have changed for the better.

      My smart meter is the gen1.

      Pompeyexile Same here, I have got EV and home charger. Recently I moved to Intelligent Octopus and the price of charging my EV is amazing. I would not say that the smart meter is making me pay more for what we use. I am still trying to understand what about smart meter makes so many people to dislike it. I must be missing something.

      Current setup: ACS Vesuvius, Nuova Simonelli Mythos One. Past experience, Nuova Simonelli Apia 1 gr., San Remo Capri 1 gr., Bezzera BZ 35e, Fracino Heavenly. Anfim Super Lusso.

      Contact me at: john_yossarian11@yahoo.com

      OldGregg It’s the same over here, though sometimes we’ll have a main switch to isolate the supply after the meter, but everything after that is the responsibility of the home owner.

      We don’t have a ‘choice’ per se, but the staggered/slow roll out of smart meters here means that some people still have the old style analogue or digital one way meters.

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      So I have finally got around to taking a look at my Octopus account. How does this compare to others?

      Those standing charges are outrageous

        I’m with OVO and paying 27.72p a day for gas and 41.67p a day for electricity.

        Unit prices are 7.04p /kWh gas and because I’m on Economy 7 I have two prices for electricity.

        At the moment the E7 time is between 1:00am to 8:00am and is 19.81p/kWh and the rest of the time its 33.62p/kWh.

        I get to warm the coffee machine and have my first coffee before 8:00 every day which is a good saving.

        dutchy101 my electricity standing charge is at 49 p per day. The gas standing charge is the same. You are at 8 p cheaper standing charge. I am with Octopus

        Current setup: ACS Vesuvius, Nuova Simonelli Mythos One. Past experience, Nuova Simonelli Apia 1 gr., San Remo Capri 1 gr., Bezzera BZ 35e, Fracino Heavenly. Anfim Super Lusso.

        Contact me at: john_yossarian11@yahoo.com

          I’m with Octopus tracker until November hope I can extend this for another year.


            Inspector hmmm i extended mine but they put me on the latest version of the tracker which has the higher daily rate and the cap on the electric and gas was much much higher than my old tariff….

            just checked and it looks the same as the above.. i must have got lucky last year when i extended previously

              MattH 🤔

              Daily rate is already scandalous, how high they can go. Smh.

              Our daily rate charges were both higher than what we actually spent for the actual gas& electric in June.

                Inspector Do you not use much electric then (gas I can see - at the moment its just the hot water usage and cooking)

                  MattH we weren’t home for two weeks, it was just fridge freezer during that time. But in summer actual usage and daily charge is about head to head.

                  When we are home we use about 3.5-4kw a day. No TV, full led lights, no AC/fan, no electric shower and having gas hob makes a difference 😁

                  This is my Octopus account details….

                  At the moment I am paying £230 per month for both and having just looked seems I am over £1,102 in the black!
                  I’ll give it until the end of December when the bad weather hits and if I am still anywhere near that figure I will be asking for a Christmas re-fund and readjusting my direct debit.

                    Pompeyexile Your standing charge seems quite high at 54p per day , otherwise same rates here.

                    Current setup: ACS Vesuvius, Nuova Simonelli Mythos One. Past experience, Nuova Simonelli Apia 1 gr., San Remo Capri 1 gr., Bezzera BZ 35e, Fracino Heavenly. Anfim Super Lusso.

                    Contact me at: john_yossarian11@yahoo.com

                    Why no one spins the wheel of fortune 🤣

                    a month later

                    DavecUK sorry for asking, but - is it a VBM Domobar Super? How do you like it? It seems to have pressure profiling as well, right?

                      delta76 sorry for asking, but - is it a VBM Domobar Super? How does you like it? It seems to have pressure profiling as well, right?

                      yes, it’s the Vibiemme Domobar Super Digital (digital has is a lever group, electronic is a solenoid group). It does do pressure profiling. It’s fine, nice build quality. I should sell it really as I’ve too many machines and it gets no use. Only used for testing. https://www.vbmespresso.com/en/home-barista/domobar-super/