ACS Minima vs Lelit Mara X

The performance of the minima equals or exceeds much more expensive dual boilers especially around steaming!

The solenoid group is something I would like to see on many more machines….warms up a little faster too!

DavecUK ahh that is a bummer… it guess it may not be that far from my current Oscar II with the Lelit Silent Pump..

I guess the question I have to ask myself is if the extra money to get the Bianca is worth it, even if I get a deal on it.

Well if you plan to add flow control at any point then thats another 200, which measns your paying another 400 for a rotary pump, tamper , 2 pf and 3 baskets haha

Cuprajake that was my thinking too. Ahh it’s not an easy choice!!

Snooze Get the Bianca, you know that’s what you really want. Cheaper than upgrading later!

Cuprajake

To be fair, my Minima came with 3 portafilters (including bottomles) and baskets. I won’t mention the tamper it came with

Thats good, mone came with a standard and naked was provided by black cat from memory

Yes that’s correct, Black Cat threw in the bottomless - it’s not in the ACS accessories, but it came with a double and single spouted portafilter and baskets. The blanking disk was rubber as opposed to a metal basket.

Cuprajake I’m in contact with ACS about potentially buying a Minima and they have been investigating ways to make the pump quieter and if it works, they could put it on the machine I would order. To me that may tilt the balance toward the Minima!! They also suggested that changing the pump for the MaraX pump would be doable. The person I’m exchanging with is also investigating other options with Paolo so there may be other options.

So I’ll wait until I know more from them. But so far I’m glad I didn’t get the Bianca too quickly since I may save some money to improve my grinder.

BTW, what do you guys consider a necessary upgrade to a Eureka Silenzio? I may move this question to the grinder section since I don’t want to derail this thread.

simonc I went directly on their website for that. I will not post their email here to avoid potential spamming. Unless the moderator wish to do it.

simonc Do you have details for the ACS? If I can’t get the used Minima I want to discuss with them an alteration to the power supply on a new one

I think this is probably your best bet

Snooze This is what drew me to ACS as they’re continually developing and if my one didn’t appear on eBay I was in discussion about buying a new one too. If they manage to improve the pump noise they’ll be onto a winner!

Alexvs I would love a new one but at the moment hoping to get used as saves a lot of money.

Snooze Interested to see what they come up with on the pump noise. I can make a coffee with everyone still asleep and not wake anyone up, so isn’t an issue here, but improvements are always interesting and tempting.

simonc It’s exactly what I did and was lucky to grab a bargain as mine also had the profiling kit fitted. They don’t come up too often but hopefully you’ll find one too 👍🏼

Good day everyone. Except the Lelit Bianca, which dual boiler on the market is comparable if not better than the ACS Minima? We compare the Minima to the MaraX because of the similarity in size and price but it would be interested to hear from you what you think is comparable. I’ll start a comparative table to help me in my decision although so far it’s between MaraX, Minima and Bianca. But there must be in between choices to consider.
Thanks!!