RobertRo101 - that’s very unfortunate and sad to hear.
Maybe it’s worthwhile chatting to your retailer and they might be able to work with you to try to diagnose the issue yourself. Maybe it’s a faulty Gicar box, in which case, they could simply send you a new one and you could replace it easily.
At this point, I wish you good luck, and I’m sorry to hear your machine is not working as expected.
Thank you for your help. I really don’t know what could have caused this problem, it was working perfectly for the first 3 weeks and I was really enjoying it. Eh, I guess I better learn how to temp surf now until this is fixed:)
RobertRo101 I would definitely recommend letting Lelit know as well. I am faily sure connected (via the switch) is coffee priority and disconnected it HX mode….e.g. if the switch was removed and the wires left dangling, it would be in HX mode.
As you have checked the wiring and it’s all OK I would suspect the Gicar box.
There is a check you could try, with the machine off, use a resistance meter and see if the switch itself is actually working!
Thanks, will try and find a meter and check if the wires are alive and you are correct, if the switch is broken or the cables have any sort of problem, the machine only works in HX mode.
I contacted Lelit on the Lelit care platform and their last response was that “the video doesn’t apply to the V2 of the machine, which has a new software version” I asked what part of the video doesn’t apply, the flashing light to check for coffee mode or the wiring to the switch is different in V2 thank in V1 but still no response to this question yet.
RobertRo101 I contacted Lelit on the Lelit care platform and their last response was that “the video doesn’t apply to the V2 of the machine, which has a new software version” I asked what part of the video doesn’t apply, the flashing light to check for coffee mode or the wiring to the switch is different in V2 thank in V1 but still no response to this question yet.
It can be difficult at first for the manufacturers to understand the problem…they will initially make the assumption that it is some other problem….or a misunderstanding.
I should actually send them the video I made for the forum, maybe that will help.
Hi guys, so after speaking with lelit care and my reseller, they both seem to think that this is normal for the V2 of the MaraX. I am going to send them this video that I just made regarding the temperature on setting 0. Lelit said that for V2 a new software was installed and that may explain the high temperature but I did not buy this machine to only get temperature from 93 to 96 degrees. Also, the machine was much much more stable in the first 2-3 weeks that I got it. The temperature on setting 0 was around 91.5 (93-93.5 on the thermometer). Any thoughts?
Ps: this was one of the good days for the machine:) most of the time the variance in temperature is greater than this
RobertRo101 You need to always show the pressure gauges, not keep wobbling about….try landscape mode. You also need to state whether this was just after it was warmed up..and hoe long, or how long since the last shot, or was t simply standing for 20 minutes?
In this way you put the video in proper context.
Also keep the camera low, so they can see the flow rate and mention how many gs of espresso you extracted in what time.
Everything I have mentioned is information that is unclear and may well not elicit an accurate response.
You are right. The pressure is at 9 bars, the machine was 1 hour and maybe 10-15 minutes warm, no shot before. The flow is around 47g/10s without the portafilter in place, the Mara V2 also has a green pump.
But none of this above explains anything for me because the same routines I have now are the ones I had before this whole strange temperature thing happened. I had around 91.5 on setting 0 and it was constant.
RobertRo101 - so… is the machine stuck in HX mode or not?
I have no idea. They said that that video does not apply to V2 but they did not say how to check for that in the V2. My guess is that it is indeed in HX, and that would explain the fluctuations in temperature I see on the thermometer, the variance in extraction, and the hotter than normal starting point. I am still waiting to see if they can tell me how to check for HX mode in V2.
Also, if it helps, when I put the lever in the middle position, there are no droplets of water coming out, if that is a sign of anything:), I saw that there should be a few droplets coming out, some people on other forums use this as a kind of preinfusion, idk.
RobertRo101 - I believe that, in order for he machine to be “brew stable”, the pressure has to oscillate quite a bit in order to not overheat. If the top half of the manometer remains at, e.g. 1bar pressure constantly when idling, then it’s in HX mode. If it keeps fluctuating to lower pressures, dumps water now and again (in order to keep the HX cooler), then it’s in brew priority mode.
In both modes mine remains around 0.5bars (0.4-0.6). I will monitor in both modes for pressure changes and for the dumps of water, thanks.
If you’re in HX mode, each temperature setting for the PID should show different a different steam pressure in the manometer. I believe 0 should be about 1 bar, 1 should be 1.25 bar, and 2 should be 1.5 bar - according to some technical manual I found in a review.
And these should sit pretty stable in HX mode.
Well, in that case, I am never in HX mode:))
RobertRo101 flow is around 47g/10s without the portafilter in place, the Mara V2 also has a green pump.
But you were extracting through coffee I think? Obviously with an empty group the temperatures shown on the group head thermometer will be higher when you run the pump.
The flow rate is without the portafilter in place. But the video I made to show the temperature was during a normal extraction.
RobertRo101 I thought so, it’s important to be crystal clear when dealing with people/companies who’s native language is not English.
Yeah, sorry for the misunderstanding. Btw in position 2 for the temperature setting, the pressure gauge is at 0.6 bar
So..
What are the top manometer readings for:
Side switch, position HX mode:
Temp. Switch Position left, position centre and position right?
Expected: needle to move to set positions and stay there.
Side switch, position Brew mode:
Temp switch Position left, position centre and position right?
Expected: needle to fluctuate around set positions.
Watch for 10 minutes each and report back.
The reason I ask is that, if there are differences in behaviour, then at least something is happening (rather than being stuck). Currently I’m more confused than certain.
