I think Lelit “may” have confused people slightly here….not 100% certain.

In discussions with them over a year ago, I suggested that the machine might be better having:

  • a pure coffee mode no steaming, so the temperature in the HX can be exact new position 0
  • Steam Boost mode, which is like the old system of steam boost (the old position 1)

This meant loosing the pure uncontrolled HX mode. The main reason was because I never used it and really couldn’t see why anyone would use it unless they were buying an HX machine for a different use scenario than MaraX was intended for. Mauro liked this idea and I believe may well have implemented it with the new model.

Ideally of course a 3 position side switch or a second switch would have been nice to have Xmode Coffee, steam boost and pure HX. I wasn’t sure the software was capable of that.

The Idea was that Xmode coffee was for the none steamed milk drinker, if someone wanted milk you could switch it into “Coffee Boost Mode”, which I think they have called Xmode steam.

So to summarise for the new machine, I think:

Xmode Coffee (Position 0) - This is like the single boiler PID controlled machines giving you 3 very stable temperatures (I-0-II), minimal chance of overheating, no steam boosting, you can go back to the machine after 4 minutes or 8 minutes and it’s at the right temp.

Xmode Steam (Position 1) - The old steam boost we all know and love, and used to be position 1 on the old machine. HX mode in position 0 having gone the way of the ark.

The clues are here

I believe the confusion is here

I’m waiting to hear back and will let you know. If I am right, they simply need to reword the user guide slightly.

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    DavecUK - Dave, have you got the Xmode positions the other way around? Should it be Xmode Steam (position 1) and Xmode Coffee (position 0)? (As per manual).

    in your explanation I think you got the “xmode” positions the other way round. 👍

        Just to add some clarity for this.

        Switch Position 1 is similar to the old setting where it boosts the steam when you extract for lattes and gives a decent steam boost, I think 130+ for a bit longer than before. Of course the same issues of overheat applies as in my review, where if you don’t make coffee after coffee…and wait you will have to flush.

        Switch Position 0 - used to be HX mode, but that has gone and this is special coffee and espresso without milk steaming mode… To give better stability and less overheat, with the heating element of during the shot and only boosting slightly to service the needs of HX recovery. I would think you can still steam in this mode..but it would be limited to small quantities of milk and be slower.

        I must remember to ask for a revised Gicar box to try it as I am not sure I have one…I have lots of different programmed boxes. 🤣, but not quite this.

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          Just to point out, those are the only pages from the new manual that they have sent me. I don’t have any other pages and don’t know if there are any other differences, other than those stated above. They have confirmed that the new software will make the machine warm-up quicker, but they did not go into detail.

            DavecUK Just to add some clarity for this.

            Switch Position 1 is similar to the old setting where it boosts the steam when you extract for lattes and gives a decent steam boost, I think 130+ for a bit longer than before. Of course the same issues of overheat applies as in my review, where if you don’t make coffee after coffee…and wait you will have to flush.

            Switch Position 0 - used to be HX mode, but that has gone and this is special coffee and espresso without milk steaming mode… To give better stability and less overheat, with the heating element of during the shot and only boosting slightly to service the needs of HX recovery. I would think you can still steam in this mode..but it would be limited to small quantities of milk and be slower.

            I must remember to ask for a revised Gicar box to try it as I am not sure I have one…I have lots of different programmed boxes. 🤣, but not quite this.

            DavecUK - Thank you very much for clarifying this Dave! This makes a lot of sense: Mode 1 stays the same (maybe with a stronger steam boost?), and mode 0 changes from a standard HX (which isn’t useful for most) to a No-Steam-Boost-Coffee-Only mode.

            Yes, the names in the images they sent to @RobertRo101 can be confusing (Coffee priority now called Xmode steam, and Steam Priority replaced with Xmode coffee). Maybe they have not yet finalized the V2 manual and this is why RobertRo101 got the V1 manual?

            Is there an option to update V1 software to V2? If someone buys a new Gicar box and replaced the old one - will that machine work as a V2? I am sure some people might be interested in that.

                    Doram Is there an option to update V1 software to V2? If someone buys a new Gicar box and replaced the old one - will that machine work as a V2? I am sure some people might be interested in that.

                    I would imagine it should work fine, expensive, but it would work….and of course you still have the old box.

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                      6 days later

                      Does anyone here put their hands on a MaraX with a black logo?

                      Also, any idea if (and when) it will be available in North America?

                      Lelit’s website shows the new black logo but still mention the original Coffee modes (brew and HX). Does anyone know if it’s because the changes are not yet available at all?

                        Snooze I don’t, although I would like to get my hands on a Gicar box with the new programming, ako I can put it into the existing MaraX I have. I did suggest the new programming after all. I must remember tomorrow to sort that out.

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                            DavecUK Is there no way you could reach out to Lelit or Mauro directly? I would be really interested in seeing the results you get from testing the new machine, and would also help a lot of new buyers interested in the Mara V2, seeing the new and much different modes of operating.

                                Lelit are sending me the new Gicar box with the revised programming of the V2 MaraX. It’s good because I can update the MaraX review and answer any questions once I fit it…do people want me to do a video of fitting the box?

                                Lelit actually contacted me and asked if I wanted the latest version…which was thoughtful of them. Good job I don’t sell any of my machines!

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                                  That’s great. I would love to see an in-depth temperature testing, with different modes and temperature settings and in different conditions (eg. 2 coffees, 1 milk, another coffee; or 2 coffees with 2-3-4-5 minutes between them on the new setting, etc.) I guess that is the selling point of the new V2, the temperature stability on the new CoffeeX mode on position 0, because the other mode ex-“ coffee priority mode” was already in the V1 Mara.

                                  DavecUK that’s very nice of them. Yes a video would be very interesting to me if I get the MaraX.

                                  By any chance, did they mention something about availability of the new version?

                                      I can confirm that after speaking with Lelit representatives the V2 is only available in a few European countries, I don’t know exactly which ones but it is not available at all to the rest.