@"DavecUK"#p12737 Thanks Dave.. interesting because it occurrs to me the Vesuvius plus a bluetooth connection and the right programming would be the perfect synthesis of build quality (ECM) innovation (Decent) all wrapped in a traditional E61 style body. Can you convince @"Paolo_Cortese"#90 to update it? I love mine, which I bought second hand largely on the basis of your reviews; its taken me a year but I think I've finally got the hang of it!

@"Grahamsphillips"#p13074 I'd put an order in for one of those!

> @"Grahamsphillips"#p13074 Can you convince [@Paolo_Cortese](https://coffeetime.freeflarum.com/u/Paolo_Cortese) to update it? It would mean losing that lovely old, but proven super reliable main board…..

hi, could some one with a vesuvius with the wood/metal handle please email off my sig

I have a wooden handled bottomless pf (generic) that I bought for my Elizabeth then a barista pro IMS basket in it. Will this IMS basket fit the supplied bottomless pf that comes with the Vesuvius?

So, my Vesuvius arrived today. I didn’t want to start another thread and this looked like the most appropriate place to discuss my first day! It left Italy last Friday and arrived in my house today - 6 days, yipee! Mine was definitely used, the plastic was gone from it, there was dirt here and there, spilled water underneath the water tank and for some reason the pipes going onto the tank had a black residue of some sort on parts of them. The panel on top of the machine, where the cup test sits is pretty badly finished with dirty plastic covering it but doesn’t bother me. I didn’t pay for a brand new machine I guess!! Assembling was easy as the provided guide is comprehensive (remember the first thing you do is unscrew the four screws on the top of the side panels, no hammer or anything required) The Teflon furniture gliders I pre purchased are perfect for moving it around on the counter top. A bag of felt pads come with the machine. I put 1L through the group 200ml at a time with at least 15 seconds in between. I then emptied the service boiler twice as per manual. I noticed the shower screen had coffee on it so I soaked that in puly caff and gave a good wash. At this stage I only had time to pull 4 shots as I had to leave! I was close to dialled in by the fourth albeit a bit long but I took it with me in the car- I have to say it was very very nice. So I look forward to playing with it tomorrow. I thought I had a dodgy touch screen as it didn’t seem to respond some times but apparently there are different delay times for different choices on it.. phew..! Looks a stunning machine on the counter and I love the almost totally silent pump. I thought the water reservoir wasn’t the best design but I think I’ll get used to it and won’t have to be refilling it so often when I’m not flushing the system through and just using it to make coffee! It really is a different operation to the Elizabeth but I don’t think it will take long to get used to it. So, I can’t wait to drink coffee from it tomorrow

[upl-image-preview url=//i.imgur.com/cumOEwk.jpeg] I use this type of oil can to fill any of my machines with water.

@"DavecUK"#p13617 I ordered this one by someone’s recommendation on here: https://www.toolstation.com/laser-plastic-measuring-jug/p20428 Seems really ok although the spout is not very flexible

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@"prezes"#p13619 mines very similar and probably on something from nu-man, the image I found seems to have brewers droop.

I used a plastic 2 litre water bottle today!

Vesuvius Pressure Profiling Machine - General Discussion

Cuprajake

ah, presumed yours were both new

tocateclas

Cuprajake I’m afraid not… The big brass piece under the group seems to be the same, I bought it new (not a cheap one) from acs last year.

Cuprajake

so you bought a 2018 produced machine in 2022?

John_Yossarian

Cuprajake The way I get it, @kautivo machine was bought new in 2018 and @tocateclas machine was bought new in 2022.

tocateclas

Cuprajake no, lol! I’m meaning the spare piece, not the machine.

DavecUK

tocateclas I serviced my machine, descaled it, took boilers apart, changed the whole piece… still happens. There is pressure comming from the service boiler getting into the brew circuit.

That shouldn’t be possible as there is a mechanical disconnection of the service boiler and brew circuit, unless HX is ON. Even with HX on, when a shot isn’t being pulled, the service boiler is mechanically disconnected to stop heat bleed.

If you turn HX off, does the behaviour still happen?

tocateclas

DavecUK Yes, it shouldn’t but… HX has been always off. I tried with hx on as well but it’s the same. Just for discard a problem with this, I also changed the HX electro valve (the one on the right side of the machine between the boilers) but the problem seems not to be there. Paolo told me that the only way boilers are connected is through the one way valve.

JahLaza

kautivo from your videos, it overshoots at pump accel. of 210 up to close to 11 bar.it only goes just beyond 8 bar at a pump setting of 180. Does that not tell you the pump speed is affecting this? What is the pressure profile sequence in these shots? If it’s the same for both then it shows pump speed has a definite effect. What is the crackling noise in the videos? Is it from the machine or from another source?

tocateclas

JahLaza Sure, pump settings affect! But as I said, what works with service boiler off should work as fine with service boiler on. Just trying to understand what could be happening here, having this issue for many years and with all my homework made, not really confident about solving it. I just keep steam under 115-120º playing with the eco mode (four taps on the touch screen) before pulling the shot and stop worrying the rest of the day as I only use steam for the first coffee in the morning.

kautivo

John_Yossarian this information isn’t right, @tocateclas machine’s is produced in 2018, my machine in January 2019.

Cuprajake

he ment the brass thing didnt he lol

tocateclas

Cuprajake yes! 😊

tocateclas

I’ve just found an email I got from Paolo in 2021. He says the only thing that can cause air in the brew boiler is this or the hx broken but… in this case the steam boiler should be full of water! This is, fortunately, not happening. He though both problems (water returning from brew boiler to water tank and pressure interference in the profile) are caused by the one way valve. In the end I think this piece is too picky and prone to produce this so I’ve just learned to live with it. That does not mean I’m happy with it!

kautivo

tocateclas and why Acs don’t study and modify this part, we are several affected?

kautivo

For me is an important problem because i usually do 4 flatwhite and i find a big diference if i use the steamer with 128-130 degrees or 120-125 and with 125 also happen the problem but less times.

John_Yossarian

kautivo I stand corrected

kautivo

By the moment we haven’t received reply from Sat Acs but they know the problem perfectly because @tocateclas took his machine to expert technicians in Valencia and they did a videocall with Acs team and as @tocateclas say after change the parts the machine continue with the problem…

kautivo

Hi there, the failure is present, nobody reply from Acs team…i tested changing value pwm max accel and kp but software isn’t the problem…

JahLaza

kautivo I tried to help based on the information provided. See my last message above, you didn’t reply?

kautivo

JahLaza sorry the profile used is 8sec 2bar and 40 sec 8 bar, i cut espresso between 25-30sec, i always use the same profile in this case profile 1

I tested with config value 140 pwm max accel and 6.7kp…with the same failure

and i have to repeat again the machine with the configuration default from factory from i bought it in january 2019 worked right, software isn’t the problem, they know the failure 4 owners with the same problem…

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