Gaggia woes
I currently use IMS baskets. Will sticking with these be fine, or is it a worthy upgrade to the VST baskets?
Nah you’ll be fine not worth changing for
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Excellent, thank you.
I’m pretty sure I have everything I need - I use it all with the Gaggia anyway.
My only concern is, if I do decide to use the standard portafilter that comes with it, how do I tamp? Is there enough space behind the spouts to rest a little on the worktop, or do I need a “tamping station”? (I really find that spout design horrible).
Pretty sure the lelit of has a flat spout so it rests on the work top.
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DavecUK Specifically to the Elizabeth? I did have a look but I couldn’t find it.
When do you plan to order?
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I am going to call Bella Barista now and place the order, just after a couple of clarifications from them 🙂
Just called them, but their phone lines are now closed, opening up on 28th Jan.
Meh
What did you want to know?
They have really good email response usually
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In their automated message they said they will get back to emails on the 28th also, just bad timing I guess haha.
What I wanted clarified:
- I’ve seen a few posts online about people having problems with their Elizabeth. I understand it’s always the bad cases that are published on the internet and usually the good ones don’t get the publicity they deserve, but I just wanted my mind put to rest, to make sure it’s a sound investment
- Wanted to ask them to check that the OPV is at 9 bars. I understand it can be done at home, but the last thing I want to do is go around taking the machine apart before I’ve even made a coffee
- Wanted to check about my portafilter concern, to see if tamping will be an issue or not
- Wanted to ask about the Eureka digital scales, and if decent was going to purchase them as well
Eureka scales, do you have a link
I use the yuaga scales there cheap and reliable
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I have the Yagua scales also, I do like them but I find when I start the shot, my glass slides on the scale. Perhaps that’s an issue in the Gaggia due to the vibration, but less so in the Elizabeth?
It’s either between the Eureka scales of the Timemore ones.
DrForinor I’ve seen a few posts online about people having problems with their Elizabeth. I understand it’s always the bad cases that are published on the internet and usually the good ones don’t get the publicity they deserve, but I just wanted my mind put to rest, to make sure it’s a sound investment
The best place to ask for that is users, not sellers… apart from any vested interest, they also tend to see the ‘bad cases’, as those are the ones they get asked for help on, or do repairs on.
A quick search on the forum here does not seem to show too many issues - other than the recent “OPV getting stuck”, which should be factory fixed on anything ordered now - and quite a few satisfied users, some of whom have already posted here.
Agreed that there’s obviously going to be a bias on their part. But considering they have a better idea on how many are sold, versus how many have issues, would give a decent idea?
Going by their reputation from what I’ve heard, I’m trusting them to be truthful. Perhaps that’s a little naive?
DrForinor I don’t think it’s particularly naive, and they have a great rep - it’s just that I don’t think any single seller sells nearly as many as would be necessary to get a statistical view of ‘reliability’, and I don’t know to what extent they track them. You run the risk of getting an ‘impression’ to which you attribute more weight than it’s worth.
Yup, fair point. Maybe I’ll skip that question when I talk to them 🙂
Cuprajake Eureka scales, do you have a link
I use the yuaga scales there cheap and reliable
I’m just going to get a silicone grip mat to use on my Yagua scales, if my coffee glass continues to move about with the Eliabeth.
I bought a Lelit Elizabeth about 6 months ago from Bella Barista. The OPV is set out of the box at about 9.5-10 bar. I haven’t seen any need to adjust it. I have one of the coffee buttons configured to deliver about 3 seconds preinfusfion using the pump to gradually increase pressure to 9 bar. The other is set for 4 seconds preinfusion using steam to hold the pressure at 3 bar for approximately 6 more seconds then up to 9 bar for the rest of the shot. I can switch off the steam boiler and alter the way the second button works at the press of a button on the controller. I drink mainly espresso or long black so if I’m not using the steam preinfusion I keep it switched off for economy. If I want steam milk it takes minutes to be ready from switching the steam boiler on. The machine has had its default controller settings adjusted according to the documents that Dave C has produced and I’ve been extremely happy with how the machine has worked without me needing to play around with it.I am constantly changing the coffee beans I use and have found I get really good drinks by just adjusting the grinder settings (Niche Zero) and keeping the machine set - only changing one variable if at all possible. Life is too short to mess around seeking perfection in a drink if what I’m getting is good. Bottom line is I would happily get another Elizabeth if the one I have failed although I don’t expect that to happen anytime soon. I also drink coffee using other methods (see signature) but that’s not relevant to this topic.
Lelit Elizabeth, Niche Zero
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