Nope buying in the UK go to Bella barista

I’m glad you went away and had a good read

I know the e61 machines are visually nicer than the Liz but her spec is amazing.

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    Cuprajake

    Spot on my friend. I very much like the look of the E61 machines (always hankered after one) but after reading some it’s quite apparent the Elizabeth is almost perfect for my needs - almost as if it was made for me (by a great engineer, but didn’t listen to my preferences for cosmetic appearances 😅).

    • small physical size - CHECK
    • controllable brew temps - CHECK
    • stable brew temperature - CHECK
    • pre-infusion possible - WITHOUT difficulty - CHECK
    • still able to make milky drinks without major issues - CHECK

    Honestly the only thing I’m not mad on is how it looks but if it makes my coffee taste the way I want, I can easily overlook that.

    —

    Thank you EVERYONE for your help and patience with me. I never even thought about the Elizabeth when I started this thread, now I don’t think anything else comes close to what I want right now.

        DrForinor You will come to like the appearance. It has a modern vibe that will grow on you. And it is so nice to use you will love that too.

        When you get it put some cheap felt stick-on pads on the feet. Then you can slide the machine around on the bench for filling the reservoir. So much easier. And, make sure to read the review and advanced tips from our mentor DaveC. Great stuff he has on that machine. It gives you a head start on all other machines.

            dndrich

            I already have in mind to watch Dave’s videos on it, it’s first on the list 😄

                DrForinor He also has a number of long documents with a wealth of information. The links should be available somewhere on this site or the youtube videos. A must read.

                    I currently use IMS baskets. Will sticking with these be fine, or is it a worthy upgrade to the VST baskets?

                    Nah you’ll be fine not worth changing for

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                    Excellent, thank you.

                    I’m pretty sure I have everything I need - I use it all with the Gaggia anyway.

                    My only concern is, if I do decide to use the standard portafilter that comes with it, how do I tamp? Is there enough space behind the spouts to rest a little on the worktop, or do I need a “tamping station”? (I really find that spout design horrible).

                    Pretty sure the lelit of has a flat spout so it rests on the work top.

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                    DavecUK Specifically to the Elizabeth? I did have a look but I couldn’t find it.

                      When do you plan to order?

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                        Cuprajake

                        I am going to call Bella Barista now and place the order, just after a couple of clarifications from them 🙂

                          Just called them, but their phone lines are now closed, opening up on 28th Jan.

                          Meh

                          What did you want to know?

                          They have really good email response usually

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                            Cuprajake

                            In their automated message they said they will get back to emails on the 28th also, just bad timing I guess haha.

                            What I wanted clarified:

                            • I’ve seen a few posts online about people having problems with their Elizabeth. I understand it’s always the bad cases that are published on the internet and usually the good ones don’t get the publicity they deserve, but I just wanted my mind put to rest, to make sure it’s a sound investment
                            • Wanted to ask them to check that the OPV is at 9 bars. I understand it can be done at home, but the last thing I want to do is go around taking the machine apart before I’ve even made a coffee
                            • Wanted to check about my portafilter concern, to see if tamping will be an issue or not
                            • Wanted to ask about the Eureka digital scales, and if decent was going to purchase them as well

                                Eureka scales, do you have a link

                                I use the yuaga scales there cheap and reliable

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                                  DrForinor I’ve seen a few posts online about people having problems with their Elizabeth. I understand it’s always the bad cases that are published on the internet and usually the good ones don’t get the publicity they deserve, but I just wanted my mind put to rest, to make sure it’s a sound investment

                                  The best place to ask for that is users, not sellers… apart from any vested interest, they also tend to see the ‘bad cases’, as those are the ones they get asked for help on, or do repairs on.

                                  A quick search on the forum here does not seem to show too many issues - other than the recent “OPV getting stuck”, which should be factory fixed on anything ordered now - and quite a few satisfied users, some of whom have already posted here.

                                      CoyoteOldMan

                                      Agreed that there’s obviously going to be a bias on their part. But considering they have a better idea on how many are sold, versus how many have issues, would give a decent idea?

                                      Going by their reputation from what I’ve heard, I’m trusting them to be truthful. Perhaps that’s a little naive?