I might just do that but no hurry atm. I’ll give it a couple of months and see if i can get one before Christmas. Easier to justify 😉

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Not sure which ‘Duo’ thread to ask this in but seeing as it’s a potential purchase thread, thought I’d whack it in here.

Still mulling over the upgrade to a Niche but just wondering about getting both burrs as I don’t feel I need both, however…

Would I regret only getting the espresso burrs if I opted for the duo? (Currently only drink espresso based) This would be end game grinder for me, I doubt I’d want to try different espresso burrs tbh if the mazzers are that good.

Has anyone tried espresso burrs for filter? (Seems most have both burrs so assume you wld just use the filter burrs)

    ST30B Seems most have both burrs so assume you wld just use the filter burrs

    I only have the espresso burrs, and a I don’t drink filter coffee. The filters burrs on the Duo are ideal, exclusive for filter burrs. If you just want to make the occasional filter, the espresso burrs will do a job just fine.

    ST30B I doubt I’d want to try different espresso burrs tbh if the mazzers are that good

    Taste and “being good” are very subjective. They are traditional and well made. More importantly, the grinder was designed and tuned with that burr set, so changing to something else 10x more expensive might not be optimal anyway, but no different to fitting aftermarket burrs to any other grinder.

    I’m drinking a medium dark Brazilian coffee at the moment. To my taste, for that coffee, the Niche Zero wins. I’m not saying the Duo is better than the Zero or vice-versa. I’m just saying they produce different flavour profiles. The same could be said for making filter with the espresso vs the filter burrs. And, unless you you have both… you’ll never know the difference. 😉

    Now, if that’s your “end game grinder”, and you enjoy filter coffee and drink it frequently, it would be silly not to buy both burr sets.

        I echo what was said above, if you are sure you won’t be drinking filter, and won’t be experimenting with/using 2 different espresso burrs.

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        Thank you for your replies. I have drank and enjoyed filter in the past but maybe I haven’t had a good enough grind/method. (French press/drip machine) I might try one from the local roaster as they serve a variety of brew methods. Or buy a V60.

        I predominantly drink flat whites (5oz I think) so not a massive amount of milk and the occasional long black. I’ve stuck to medium roasts for some time now using a eureka mignon (50mm flat burrs) and I may have got used to the flats now.

        I keep thinking about Jake’s comparison of his Mrs choosing the duo milk drink each time and maybe the duo is the best of both worlds. Jake has kindly offered a demo to compare but we’re actually at complete other ends of the north west. Ha.

        the difference is £120 from single to both burrs, you need to decide if its worth while buying both if you are only going to change once in a while? but for a comparable hand grinder to do pour over you are in the 100-200 region anyways.

        really depends on budget and what you want from it, you can do filter with the stock espresso burrs, it just wont be as good as what is with the filter set, but by no means bad, and what you never had you cant miss

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        Playing devil’s advocate here … for those of you with both burr sets, could you hand on heart identify a filter brew blind tasting 100% of the time if either filter or espresso burrs were to be used ?

        And, if so, does it just taste different or much better ?

          yeah i did.

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          Really is a no brainer going for the Duo with the two sets of burrs IMO.

          I was in the position of buying a grinder for filter, I already have a cheap Hario hand grinder but life’s way too short😀 and keeping my existing grinder, which is massive, for espresso but with only the espresso burrs you’re spending £680 for an espresso grinder in which case you’d be better off with the Niche Zero (plenty available SH but the SH prices are high so I’d personally buy new from Niche) rather than the duo but as said above you’d be lucky to buy a decent filter grinder for £120.

          End of the day you can always buy the Duo with both sets of burrs and flog the filter burrs for what you paid for them or buy the Duo with the espresso burrs and then try to source a set of filter burrs which might not be easy I’d imagine it would much easier selling the filter set than buying them second hand.

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            Twotone2 Really is a no brainer going for the Duo with the two sets of burrs IMO.

            I personally think so really. For the last few days I have been drinking only Aeropress and filter, this particular coffee really shines prepared by those methods, especially Aeropress.

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                DavecUK I personally think so really. For the last few days I have been drinking only Aeropress and filter, this particular coffee really shines prepared by those methods, especially Aeropress.

                I have been focusing on espresso but have a nice bag of filter beans I’m about to shift my focus to. What is a good starting point grind number reference on the DUO for Aeropress & also V60? And does this change if using the espresso burr? Would like to compare & contrast each other.
                If you can also remember Aeropress & V60 numbers on the Zero (from memory around 35 for V60 on the Zero) as it’s been a little while since I’ve played with filter brews on the Zero.
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                    empee If you can also remember Aeropress & V60 numbers on the Zero (from memory around 35 for V60 on the Zero) as it’s been a little while since I’ve played with filter brews on the Zero.

                    I’m not sure you’ll get a representative V60 brew at 35 on a Zero, I’m usually around 92 (1 full rotation +6).

                    How long are you steeping the Aeropress?

                      empee I have been focusing on espresso but have a nice bag of filter beans I’m about to shift my focus to. What is a good starting point grind number reference on the DUO for Aeropress & also V60? And does this change if using the espresso burr? Would like to compare & contrast each other.
                      If you can also remember Aeropress & V60 numbers on the Zero (from memory around 35 for V60 on the Zero) as it’s been a little while since I’ve played with filter brews on the Zero.

                      For the Duo

                      Filter Burrs = 10-20 for Aero press and 35-40 for filter

                      Espresso burrs = 25 for Aero press and 40+ for filter

                      Zero = Close to end of scale to where Mark said (perhaps a little less than the end of scale for Aeropress.

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                          Cheers guys,
                          I invert Aeropress, 30sec bloom, NSEW x2, flip @ 2 min and slowly press, usually taking 30sec. 12g/200g water.
                          Just try to keep it simple & repeatable.

                          I would normally use my 1zpresso with Aeropress when away from home but interested to compare & contrast them all while I have them to see if I can taste any difference. And haven’t tinkered too much with V60 yet.

                          • MWJB replied to this.

                            empee If you want to brew at the same grind as V60 in the AP, try 20g of coffee, 125g water - inverted, NSEW x2, flip at 1:45 plunge at 2:00 until you see dry grounds.

                            This gives a concentrated moka pot strength brew, you could use more water if you wanted a bigger cup, up to 200ml? If you get bitterness, or sourness, reduce the steep time in 15s increments until they are eliminated.

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