HarveyMushman If my milk goes through a machine rather than through the digestive system of an animal then I’m ok with that.

If you can find milk that went “through a digestive system of an animal”, I bet it will be marketed as super-premium. ;-)

HarveyMushman rather than through the digestive system of an animal

I don’t think milk from mammals - whether a cow, a human, a whale or a bat - goes through the producer’s digestive system. Unless the milk is drank, of course. 👍. I might be mistaken of course, and happy to be corrected, of course.

@MediumRoastSteam You are likely right, I’ve no idea of the exact journey it takes, all I know is that it’s gone through a cow in one way or another and that’s enough to put me off.

As with everything though, to each their own, we’re all free to eat/drink whatever keeps us happy and healthy and I respect that.

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Oh yeah… I forgot Jersey milk is not homogenised. I’ve tried it before as a flat white, but I feel I had a meal afterwards… 🤣

I do like milk, but part of me also thinks humans were not originally designed to drink milk as adults. In fact, we humans are the only mammals who drink milk as adults. So I do try to keep it for coffee only. I usually have porridge for breakfast, and for that I just use water. I’m not a fan of oat milk myself (I have tried), specially those you buy at the supermarket as there are a lot of additives added.

    MediumRoastSteam In fact, we humans are the only mammals who drink milk as adults.

    And probably the only mammals who brew coffee.

    MediumRoastSteam In fact, we humans are the only mammals who drink milk as adults.

    And the only ones who drink milk from another species…

    Of course there’s always human milk for your coffee ;)

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      MediumRoastSteam Now… that’s a step too far. 🤣

      The preserve of billionaires…I expect Jeff and Elon have a few pints chilling in the fridge…….

      MediumRoastSteam I do like milk, but part of me also thinks humans were not originally designed to drink milk as adults. In fact, we humans are the only mammals who drink milk as adults.

      It’s mostly true, except for descendents of Northern Europeans. Our ancestors acquired a mutation that allows consumption of milk past the infant stage.

      For the Irish, it was their main food group for hundreds of years.

      https://physicalculturestudy.com/2015/06/07/the-traditional-irish-diet/

      (This isn’t the website I was looking for, but it works)

        Loonster - yep. I was specifically referring to the mutation. It wasn’t the case, until some of us evolved (mutated) to be able to consume milk.

        Loonster

        Vague memories that the ability to eat cheese/butter etc (which were able to be stored) over those cold Northern European winters was a genetic advantage.
        Those who could live through the conditions survived and bred.

        I have become lactose intolerant in my dotage.
        I was visiting a friend in another city last year and asked if we could stop to pick up some lactose free milk.
        His response was, “Dude, I’m Sri Lankan, I’ve been drinking lactose free milk all my life”.
        I had made him hundreds of milk coffees over decades and he had never mentioned it.

          Amberale I have become lactose intolerant in my dotage.

          Seems to be the trend with my family (maternal side) and my sister. However, it’s an intolerance rather than an allergy, so, as long as they don’t go over the tipping point, they are OK. Maybe for your friend, the odd cup of milky coffee now and again was tolerated well by his body.

          If having trouble with milk, I would try A2 milk. This is a protein more similar to human milk. (And also what most cows produced before A1 became more widespread).

          Or just milk alternatives!

          25 healthy years drinking milk alternatives tells me we don’t need to drink cow’s milk.

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