Not sure blocking anyone who disagrees with you is the way to go personally…. If someone is abusive then sure. But a different opinion?

Without going political, you don’t silence your “opposition”, at least not in a democracy anyway….

    Twotone2 Back flushing does nothing.

    Why do you believe this and what do you believe backflushing is meant to do?

    Each to their own and I’m not exactly Mr. Clean when it comes to espresso machines but back flushing with Cafiza/Pulycaff etc 100% does do something.

    Have a look at a shower screen before and after back flushing and any oils are pretty quickly removed. Same as soaking baskets and spouted portafilters. You can literally see the difference.

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    Tal when you have been at the end of quote a few nasty tongues like I have in the past year I find it quicker and easier not to read what they write

    I have no interest in what they have to say,

    Saves me time and the hassle. It’s a coffee forum I visit for fun.

    Decent De1pro v1.45 - Niche Duo - Niche Zero - Decent is the best machine ever made -

    NespressotoEspresso Just to confirm, I should add 0.1g of sodium bicarbonate to 1L of the distilled water?

    Yes. You can make life easier by making a concentrate. Like, make a small bottle with 200ml of water and 2g of sodium bicarbonate mixed in. This is the concentrate. Then add 10ml of that concentrate for every litre of ZeroWater going into your machine.

    And yes, once the ZeroWater is filtered, just mix and add to your machine.

    As for the rest, you are overthinking this re: steam wand. Make sure you read the manual, and after every use you wipe it clean and purge immediately after steaming.

      MediumRoastSteam Is possible to add the potassium or sodium bicarbonate to the distilled water without the concentrate?

      For example, can I just buy 5 litres of distilled water and add 0.5g/500mg of potassium or sodium bicarbonate to the 5 litres, then agitate it and after that a resting period of 5-10 minutes, add that mixture to the Go and use it?

      Ok. Will wipe clean the steam wand and purge immediately after each use.

      Thank you for answering all my questions. It’s going be my first espresso machine and grinder, so I’m just very anxious.

        I make a concentrate, as it’s easier to dose. And you can store in a cold place,

        1g per 100ml of rodi/distilled water

        10ml of concentration to 1l of rodi/distilled water

        This is for potassium , when you use sodium you have to add more from memory.

        Enjoy your journey

        I would advice a good tamper one that self levels, and a cheap wdt tool you don’t need spinners or other gadgets, the normcore dosing funnels work well and are cheap, the tamper is ok but a bit wobbly. If you can find a used decent tamper they self level and are about £40 used.

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          Cuprajake This is for potassium , when you use sodium you have to add more from memory

          I keep the same for both :) - works for me. 👍 - but… if I remember correctly, to get the same alkalinity, you’ll need to add slightly more of potassium bicarbonate… if I remember 20% more. So, from memory, I think it’s the opposite of what Jake’s said 😊

            NespressotoEspresso For example, can I just buy 5 litres of distilled water and add 0.5g/500mg of potassium or sodium bicarbonate to the 5 litres, then agitate it and after that a resting period of 5-10 minutes, add that mixture to the Go and use it?

            You can. But I’d make sure that distilled/filtered/RO water you are buying is safe to drink first.

            It also depends on your consumption. 5L for me would last 3 weeks, maybe longer. Whatever you do, make sure you keep the water in a suitable container, in a cool place and well sealed.

            NespressotoEspresso - echoing a bit of what Jake is saying, I’ll put a list here of what you’ll need with your machine.

            Essentials:

            • PulyCaf or Cafiza for backflushing
            • a milk jug if you drink milk based drinks
            • good water, as above
            • a good set of scales, capable to measure to 0.1g accuracy, compact so you can fit on the drip tray of your machine and slim so there’s enough clearance. Don’t go wild - if you have spent £20, you probably spent too much;
            • an espresso cup, a flat white/latte art cup to your taste;
            • a good tamper, as per Jake’s post above;

            What you don’t need, ever:

            • nonsense to clean milk residue (her a good standard of hygiene in the first place);
            • citric acid for descaling your machine;

            what you may consider in the near future:

            • WDT tool and funnel;
            • a bottomless portafilter;

            Later on:

            • silicone group gasket;
            • better baskets;
            • more paraphernalia;
            • fancy cups;
            • shot mirror;
            • puck screen;
            • filter papers;

              I’m in exactly the same boat at the moment. Apart from the hardware, the ‘software’ is also, or even more important. My first cups were awful, like bitter or sour aftertaste for more than an hour. My grinder lacks a clear indication (Mignon) and I did start at a completely wrong point. And before you know it, you start tweaking lots of parameters simultaneously. For me, the key was to “stay calm and keep grinding” and reduce complexity. 😎

              What I did is buying lots of reasonable but not very expensive medium dark roasted beans. Dail-in the grinder so that you get a cup with 1:2 ratio (weight of beans: weight of espresso) within about 25 to 35 seconds. In my case, sometimes almost drinkable, most of the time entirely not. But I reasoned that this is a good starting point to optimize.

              Next point was optimizing the temperature. Because my puck preparation skills were bad, this took some cups. But this way I got away with the sourness.

              On my machine (Lelit Elizabeth), the pressure was at the high end, so I reduced it to 9 bar. I think this improved the harshness but could also be coincidence.

              I did set-up a pre-infusion of 5 seconds, which again reduced harshness a bit. Don’t know if your machine supports this.

              At this time, 1 out of 5 or so cups were drinkable.

              Next step, improve puck preparation. Got a cheap Wdt tool with thin needles, a funnel, but skipped the self levelling tamper. I think the craft of coffee making prevails using too many automatic tools. Better practice a bit. 🙃

              After about 2 weeks, I am now at the point that I’m able to consistently make quite drinkable espresso’s. Still the same base settings and same beans to keep the situation stable. Already better than the nespresso stuff.

              Now is the time to try some medium roasted beans and tweak the base settings accordingly.

              I found out that espresso is quite different from nespresso. Think a factor 10 stronger taste, especially when you make the mistakes that are unavoidable at start. But at some point it is going to give the rewards you want. My biggest challenge was to get the grinder in a somewhat reasonable setting, but as far as I know the Niche Zero has a better fineness setting indication.

              Good luck!

                Brainbox biggest challenge was to get the grinder in a somewhat reasonable setting, but as far as I know the Niche Zero has a better fineness setting indication

                Not necessarily. The Mignon is perfectly fine grinder - providing you use it as intended. Removing the declumper, single dosing etc… it’s not what it is for. But if you use it as it tells you to - fill up the hopper, grind, keep the hopper topped up etc, it’s an incredible consistent grinder with an adjustment mechanism where you can make very minor tweaks very easily - profiling you stay in the espresso range - which is what it is for.

                  MediumRoastSteam

                  It is a very fine grinder indeed, strong motor and once you find the correct settings it works perfect. I have the single dose version, wouldn’t want to change. My problem was that, unlike the Niche I believe, there is no reference on the settings knob as to what the correct espresso range actually is. It took me some time to figure that out. I just wanted to share my experience to hopefully help out a bit, and mention this because this is different in my situation wrt. the topic starter, who is probably more lucky.

                  MediumRoastSteam

                  I can agree with that. I have a Eureka Mignon Facile, I tried to reduce retention by adding a hopper/bellows, I also tried removing the anti clumping etc.

                  The result was massively unpredictable, one shot would appear ok. The next one, the bellows might dislodge a load of coffee in the chute. Removing the anti clumping just make the result in the porta filter poor and caused the chute to clog.

                  I now use it with a days worth of beans in the hopper and just get on with life, works perfectly well.

                  My grinder is different to yours. I assume you have the larger adjustment dial, probably bigger burrs etc, but the chirp point on mine is between -0.5 and 0, and I spend most of my time grinding between 1.0 and 1.5 for espresso, bean dependant. Bag often needs a tweak as I go.

                  Back in the day when I had a Mignon, in 2011 or whenever that was… (it lives in Sydney now, with the Classic), the grinding point for espresso was about 1 full turn or 0.5 turn back from the burrs touching, depending on the coffee.

                  To find when the burrs touched, I used to unplug the grinder, remove the hopper, and spin the spindle on top of the burrs. Adjust to go finer and when there’s resistance, I then backed off by 1 turn.

                  I’m not sure at what setting the burrs touch, but mine is, for the beans I use now, set to 5 (scale 0 to 9), so halfway if you assume 0 as the touching point. Maybe when I get more familiar with the equipment I will also check this, but probably any reference point will do. I tried some medium roasted beans, which required a lower setting of around 4.5 for similar 1:2 brew times. This did result in noticeable less volume ground beans.

                  But maybe we are kidnapping @NespressotoEspresso’s thread …