On the news!! three London boroughs cannot build anymore houses for a decade / 2035

because the data centres in the area have taken up all the available power supplies and it will take a decade to upgrade the infrastructure.

Apparently data centres use more power than thousands of homes.

Hillingdon , Healing and Hounslow.

I wonder if the data centres are worried about the rising prices🤣

    Elcarajillo I used to work in a data centre in the Docklands area of London, which had more backup generator capacity than the whole of the island of Malta. Just one building!

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    It’s quite incredible how much energy is used up by data centres, cloud storage, the internet etc. You never hear this talked about anywhere. Funny that

      Elcarajillo Wouldn’t be surprised if it lasts longer. That stretch is such a prime area for DCs there’s a lot of land already bought waiting for the power to come along.

      Bagging capacity is big business, they’ll be watching like hawks until the right time.

      Two Days. Up £40 a month.

      This is over double what we are paying at the moment.

      So the price cap will go up (based on info today) to approx. £3,500 a year from October. An 80% increase on our projected annual cost is a little under £4,600 projected annual.

      Not worth fixing I don’t think.

      Martin Lewis says don’t fix unless the offered price is less than 70/75% of your current rate. It is the best I have got to go on.

        @DavecUK do share.

        Need to save all we can

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          Here’s my hints and tips:

          • If you have a boiler, turn down the outflow temperature as low as you can and still get decent heating. If the boiler has one temp setting for a storage tank and CH, turn it to 55C. Modern condensing boilers are much more efficient when they can condense properly.
          • If you have a boiler like the above, have the hot water on shared with the central heating. You may have to have HW on a little longer, but it will give you a much lower return temperature (increasing the delta between outflow and inflow.
          • For boilers with separate temps for heating and hot water (combi), turn the heating outflow temp as low as you can stand to warm the house and the hot water as well.
          • 4 minute showers (use a timer)

          The boiler changes above can save you up to 20kW of gas per day!!

          • Find any appliances with high parasitic drain and switch them off when not using (modern appliances generally don’t use more than 1 watt), especially older appliances
          • If you have a pond with a pump and fish, buy an aerator and only use the pump when you want it to look pretty, or for filtration, where you can cut it down to 6 hours per day
          • Keep curtains closed where you can, it will save you a surprising amount of heat.
          • Cook efficiently where possible, cook more than 1 thing in the oven and warm up next day in MW if appropriate.
          • Check your fridge for bad seals, or high usage…it might be cheaper in the long run to replace it.
          • Always, always dry clothes outside on a washing line if possible…you don’t need sun, just a dry day and wind…winter or summer.
          • Turn down the washing machine to 30C and always use a biological powder. Never ever use liquids or liquitabs….always use powder. Powder mixes better, contains bleach and thus you don’t get slimy remnants for bacteria growth leading to a smelly washing machine.
          • Always put a full load in the washing machine
          • If you have a plasma TV, stop using it and dump it, the 400+ watts simply isn’t worth it!!!
          • Ensure your computer doesn’t wake up at night and screw your leccy bill…probably better to shut it down.
          • Turn that coffee machine off, if you are not going to use it for a while…
          • Fill a kettle with only what you need to boil (unless you have an Osmio)
          • Add an insulation jacket to your hot tank, even if it’s already foam dipped

            Meldrew Rob666 Cuprajake

            Is the unit charge (meant to be) directly related to the wholesale price? So is it as obvious as they can’t increase the unit charge more as there would be outcry, so they ‘fill the gap’ on the cost cap with standing charge increase?

            As you say, there seems to be no good reason for the standing charge to increase, so it’s got to be shady.

              PortafilterProcrastinator really how did we all get to thinking it’s even remotely OK for it to be going up to almost 60p per kW and standing charges for dual fuel approaching £1 day.

              Especially as we were told wind power would be so much cheaper….almost free. What happened, is the wind blowing less or something. Do solar panels work worse for some reason?

              As great a mystery as when all the Lorry drivers got beamed into space…and just as quickly beamed back 4 weeks later.

                DavecUK I don’t think it’s okay in the slightest, but I feel totally powerless. Looking at the options to make a meaningful impact on our energy cost (renewables etc) we’re simply not in a position to be able to pursue them.

                A bit like the political realisation over the last few years. I’ll continue to vote and have a say as it were, but I have no expectation that anything will happen as any politician says it will.

                DavecUK Wow! That’s a long useful list. This is what we have on the boiler side. Not sure, what we need to adjust. Thanks Dave!