dfk41 Likewise. I have a similar amount even after reducing the DD from £164 to £100 during the last 1 year.

I am luckily still on a tracker tariff but if it ends on November thats the tariff they offer below. Standing charge being 60p a day is outrageous.

I hate to say it, but get used to it because the base line is now this and it ain’t going down again

The cost to the country from the failed Energy companies was in the region of 2.7 Billion pounds. There are around 28 million households, that’s not counting businesses. If the average daily standing charge increase is around 30 pence then the debt surely would be paid off by now. 28 × 30 divided by 100 gives £8400000. Divide £2700000000 by £8400000 this would be paid in 321 days. Am I missing something or again are we being taken for fools.

    Meldrew are we being taken for fools.

    This………and not just for energy, but for a huge number of things.

    23 days later

    had oct price drop through, octopus are swollowing the standing charge price which stays the same, the units loose a few pence

    Electricity Current prices until 30th September 2023 New prices from 1st October 2023 Standing charge (per day)

    Unit rate (per kWh) 29.936p 27.212p Your estimated annual cost Current prices until 30th September 2023 New prices from 1st October 2023 Electricity (£105.18 annual decrease) £1,337.74 £1,232.56

    Gas Current prices until 30th September 2023 Your prices from 1st October 2023 Standing charge (per day) 27.468p 27.468p Unit rate (per kWh) 7.513p 6.898p Your estimated annual cost Current prices until 30th September 2023 New prices from 1st October 2023 Gas (£67.86 annual decrease) £929.84 £861.98

    bit of a joke really,

    when you look at how things have increased around it, etc, esp food

    walkers grab bag used to be £1 its now £1.25 , my dads coffee went from £1 to £1.70 and lost 10g

    Decent De1pro v1.45 - Niche Duo - Niche Zero - Decent is the best machine ever made -

    Two-years of dream bill came to an end this week averaging £140 a month at the following 2 years fixed rate.

    Electricity 18.82 now; standing charge 21.68
    Gas 3.8; standing charge 23.73

    Switched to Flexible Octopus

    Electricity 27.51p, standing charge 47.95p
    Gas 6.99, 27.47p

    🤞

    a month later

    Totally P/O with OVO energy, is Flexible Octopus the best going option ??

      4 days later

      So I’ve been offered a fixed price deal (remember those?).

      Decisions, decisions. Think I’ll play it safe and go with the 12 month fixed deal

        Yeah, I’ve gone for the variable. Saves me £60 a month based on current prices and no exit fees. If it goes down further then I’ll benefit.

        Hard to think I’ll be saving £60 a month and still be paying almost double what I was a couple of years ago

        2 months later

        As the government cannot decide if it is punched, bored , countersunk or just cross threaded, I took a management decision and had a new boiler fitted. The old one one running well but the plastic components inside were beginning to crack crack up (parts that support the control board and electronics) it was 17 Y/o.
        Replaced with a Bosch 8000 Life /hydrogen ready-if it ever happens.
        Just need to get my head around all the new settings/ computer controls😖😱 .

        With the builders putting gas into new builds nearby I dont think gas is off the menu YET.🤣

          dfk41 27 years ago I installed a Honeywell AQ6000 boiler management system. I’ve been very happy with it and dread the day it packs up.

          dfk41 when my drayton room thermostat started playing up I replaced the programmer and thermostat with the drayton wiser system, if you have a drayton back plate already its a simple swap and works very well. I believe some of the other systems aren’t quite so easy to install.

          We had a smet 1 meter and an old style gas meter. So when I tried to join Octopus energy saving scheme again I was informed that the gas meter had to be changed, not sure why as the savings I thought were electric only. New meters fitted Gas and electric and only been in a month. No readings available on app so we cannot monitor things. The last bill we supposedly used nearly twice the electricity and a third more gas, and to add insult we were away for a week in this billing period. Does not add up.

          I hear what you all say, but I did not say get a smart electric and gas meter. I was running Hive a long time before I haad a smart meter. All Hive, nest etc do is act like a portable thermostat that you can control from either the unit itself or from an ap on your phone. You take your bearings from the room that you are in. If you want to turn the thermostat up or down a bit you sit in your armchair!

          Smart meters pose a different problem. The smart part of the gas or electric meter talks to another nuit that lets you see your usage. There seem to be many issues with this connectivity. My Octopus meter took a week or so before it came online and even now I sometimes lose connection. All I do is power the display off, count to 20 then power it back on again and that normally sorts it. I can imagine having a non functioning smart meter is very frustrating but mine works perfectly and I would not be without it.

          The Hive/Nest simply hard wires in to your boiler replacing the exisiting wireless thermostat. How many people still use quill pens!