BrendaninBrooklyn
You are still avoiding my point which is that he still won the popular vote nonetheless and it is still the biggest win of any republicsn since 1988.

    BrendaninBrooklyn
    If you had any real reasons, you would just spew it out just s you have stated so many other reasons on so many other things on trump above. But you won’t justify this particular point that trump caused the Ukraine war because you can’t. Own it instead of evading it.

    And on your dig on not respecting me, you show your leftist nature by insulting me even though I never did that to you. I argue strongly but I argue fairly and I don’t resort to insults. The surest test of a leftist is their contempt for others.

      BrendaninBrooklyn
      Again another insult. You haveno substanrive reasoning to speak of so u have to resort to ad hominem attacks. The first person to go personal is the first person to lose - that is always the rule of the debate…

      BrendaninBrooklyn
      You cannot even hold coherence in your arguments - nobody mentioned the wall let alone its construction quality at all so it is entirely irrelevant to what we were debating on. Going after a straw man won’t save your flailing arguments…

      chlorox

      You forgot to mention

      -- the space program

      --the largest tax cut in US history

      -- the President’s Council on Physical Fitness

      --women’s right to vote

      --ending child labor

      --civil rights act

      --Social Security

      --Medicare

      --SEC regulation of markets to protect consumers

      --the Marshall Act – post ww2 aid for Europe

      --NATO

      and a number of other such subversive doings! How awful !

        BrendaninBrooklyn
        Brendan, winning the election itself is a mandate to govern according to what one promised during the election! And as a matter of fact according to recent history of results, it is not slim at all relative to recent elections.

          chlorox

          No insult intended. We’ve never met; never actually spoken; had a few minimal posting interactions here. I do not know you. End of story. You shouldn’t read into things without inquiring first. For the record I think you are wrong but I do not think you are a dope.

            chlorox

            I think you sincerely believe what you write. I have very strong reason to believe otherwise. In this instance, I sincerely hope I am wrong. Time will tell.

            In January 2026 with one year of the new regime, I’ll be happy to discuss at least briefly, the reality that has occurred by then. Neither of us will convince the other now, so let history do so.

            As for the rest, my private thoughts are not for public forums. If we get to actually know each other directly, I may be happy to discuss them with you.

            BrendaninBrooklyn
            NASA was set up in 1958 during a republican president’s term so not sure why u attribute it to the dems.
            The biggest tax cuts were by reagan and bush - Obama merely extended the bush tax cuts.
            The president council.on youth fitness that was the predecessor council was founded again by a republican president in 1956
            As a matter of fact the 19th amendment that gave women the right to vote was introduced by a republican senator james mann…
            On child labor laws, the first politicians to campaign for a national law to ban child labor was Alfred Beveridge a republican …
            Instititng unemployment benefits legislatuon is hardly a feather in the cap to boast about.
            Medicare has not been a success - medical care is th3 most expensive to provide in usa but yet the us provides the poorest medical support among Indistrialsied nations by far
            The civil rights act was bipartisan in support.
            The sec was created as result of the stock market crash of 1928 and was bi partisan in nature so why are u giving the credit to the dems?
            It happened to be a democrat president in power at the end of ww2 but thr Marshall plan and nato had wide bi partisan support so don’t give the credit to the dems.

              BrendaninBrooklyn

              Welfare is when public money is disbursed to those who aren’t working. Bankruptcy shields debtors from being permanently insolvent and replaced the previous situation of debtors prisons…

                BrendaninBrooklyn

                If u dont want to share your opinions on politics, you sure have shared a lot of political opinions already above!

                Anyway whatever the case, try to give the new administration a chance rather than read the democrat propaganda that is being churned out constantly by the media. The present is already so bad that you may as well…

                  chlorox

                  So how many are appropriate? you have no problem with four, although that meant many people were stuck with it and likely many got hurt, what is your acceptable ceiling on bankruptcies – especially triple-million figure bankruptcies?

                  chlorox

                  A correction or two – largest tax cut was by JFK; NASA was a tiny nothing, JFK made it a major priority. We could argue the others buy why? Medicare is everything you say however it is better than nothing – although not by much.

                    chlorox

                    And you as well – watch the reality not the rhetoric and perhaps we shall amicably compare notes down the road.

                      dfk41 Not everything a party does is in a manifesto. It isn’t possible to say everything they will do. The key is to not break manifesto pledges, which they haven’t. The petition and promotion of it in our media is an attack on our democracy. The idea we can force an election a few months after we’ve just had one because people don’t like facing reality is absurd. The fact it’s being promoted by mainstream media and opposing politicians is a sign of the idiocracy we live in. All of the existing problems this country currently faces are entirely the result of the previous government burying problems in the sand and pushing them further downstream. Now people need to face the reality of what this country is and the position it’s in, and they don’t like it.