Londinium Vectis

Cuprajake the pandemic may have priced the vectus out the market, due to where it will sit, you’d have to be a lever nut or ££££ to buy it over something like a bianca

David may not be right, I remember a quoted price for it being £1,000…On HB Reiss was quoted as saying it was/would be more temperature stable than a Cremina and talked about simplicity. Perhaps he is aiming for the potential Cremina market? If he is, I think that’s a tough nut to crack.

I do agree that you would have to be a lever nut, or really, really want one.

Another nugget of information released by Londinium on this machine:

https://londiniumespresso.com/blog/news/3442/vectis

It reads:

At last, a small 58mm spring lever group. Direct fill, no pump, dipper fed, steam wand. 20cm wide, 30cm deep

That’s roughly the size of the Elizabeth, transposed, slightly smaller.

It’s a dipper though. I’d love to know what’s the trick on temp management.

Looks interesting though, and certainly something I’ll be eyeing out as my next machine, providing it can be demonstrated it delivers.

dfk41 I am not sure what it shows as the hold up was supposed to be cast groups

It seems to be the top of the group, where the lever pivots

DavecUK I do agree that you would have to be a lever nut, or really, really want one.

Aren’t these effectively the same thing? (Semi-serious question - given the competition and the possible price point)

I wonder what the price point will be, esp with the current climate

Cuprajake - at the time, and not too long ago, they said it would be under £1,000. We will know when it’s out I suppose. But even then, new group, new machine. Would you part with £1,000 blindly? I wouldn’t. Now, if they have some good videos showing what the machine is capable of, what’s it like inside, etc, then it could be a winner. I’m certainly looking forward it it.

dfk41 😳🧐😬- all I need is a Mini V Evo Leva. 😊 - Paolo, hear me out! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

LMSC - not fussed about looks. More worried about form and performance, within reason, of course. The only reason I don’t have the V Evo is because it’s huge. Something the size of the Elizabeth or the MaraX (or the Vectis as per above) would be ideal, for me at least.

So it’s just like a pavoni style lever, as in not sprung?

I’ll admit I have no interest in a lever you have to do the pressing with.

When you introduce a human into the equation then you add variables.

I bet making a small lever that’s temp stable is quite hard.

Cuprajake So it’s just like a pavoni style lever, as in not sprung?

Don’t know about the Vectis; the Cremina comes in both versions, so in principle I don’t see why the Vectis couldn’t be sprung too. Quite whether either is stable mechanically and thermally… different question!

So if it’s sprung, then is that not a bit of a risky thing

I mean making a spring lever that is cheaper than your main products but just as good, why would people then buy the likes of say the lr24? Surely the only advantage it then has is adjustable pre infusion.

I dunno, I’m not bothered. It’ll just end up like most other lever threads

Cuprajake why would people then buy the likes of say the lr24?

Because it’s got a copper boiler!